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hen918
Tue May 26 2015, 05:32PM
hen918 Registered Member #11591 Joined: Wed Mar 20 2013, 08:20PM
Location: UK
Posts: 556
... wrote ...

I would recomend KiCad Link2

Make sure you are using one of the more recent releases, it has seen rapid growth over the last few years and the most recent version is really a decent piece of software which IMHO surpasses the paid version of eagle.

+1
I always use KiCad. A very nice program once you get to know its few quirks.
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AndrewM
Tue May 26 2015, 07:59PM
AndrewM Registered Member #49 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:05AM
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PCBWay.com is the best I've ever used. Chinese prices but with 3 day turn.
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mister_rf
Tue May 26 2015, 08:08PM
mister_rf Registered Member #4465 Joined: Wed Apr 18 2012, 08:37AM
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 145
I’m not sure that I understood correctly your board dimensions, but for the EAGLE Light Edition the part needs to be placed within the 100 mm x 80 mm (4 inches x 3.2 inches).
The area starts at the origin and includes 100 mm to the right on the horizontal and 80 mm up on the vertical.
In my opinion 25 boards in production is personal use for evaluation purposes. shades
To use the freeware license select the “Run as freeware” button.
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IamSmooth
Wed May 27 2015, 02:49AM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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So I download the kicad.extras build?

Does this need an internet connection to work or is it stand-alone?
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Wed May 27 2015, 04:31AM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
Location: Southern Califorina, USA
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Currently the KiCAD official windows mirror is at Link2 you will want the most recent 'product' build (r5684 as of may 2015, make sure you get the _x64 version if you are running 64bit windows), if you are running OSX you need the most recent extras build at Link2 It will prompt you (at least under windows) to install wings3d, this will allow you to render your boards in 3d but is not required. There also may be a few errors when you first run it it as it creates its preference files, but these can be ignored.

There are some good tutorials floating around, try to make sure that you are following one of the more recent ones as some are quite outdated and the buttons have moved around since they were written. The official documentation is pretty good Link2 there are also some video tutorials out there which I understand are decent (I personally cannot stand watching video tutorials)

edit: it does not require an internet connection to run
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mister_rf
Wed May 27 2015, 08:00AM
mister_rf Registered Member #4465 Joined: Wed Apr 18 2012, 08:37AM
Location: Bucharest, Romania
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AndrewM wrote ...

PCBWay.com is the best I've ever used. Chinese prices but with 3 day turn.
I did a research on it, and I was disappointed on the shipping charges. confused
Yes, maybe that’s fast, but that’s too expensive IMO.
Let’s say 10 pcs 100mm x 100 mm, 2 layers, HASL,
PCB Cost: $ 13
Coupon Savings: - $ 2
Shipping Cost: $ 25.00
PayPal Fee: $ 3 ???
Total Amount: $ 39
My similar orders to similar company in China were about $ 24.57 ($14.90 + $9.67 shipping by Registered Airmail) and there was a 5-6 days processing time, and 11-14 days delivery time. And there was options for fast delivery too, Hong Kong DHL/FedEx/EMS but I was not in such a hurry. cheesey
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Artlav
Wed May 27 2015, 10:46PM
Artlav Registered Member #8120 Joined: Thu Nov 15 2012, 06:06PM
Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 94
Wow.
So it's now possible to do a custom PCB for under $100?

And at PCBCart it's still $55 for 10 60x40 2 layer boards plus $50 for delivery, and that's for the "prototype" quality.
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mister_rf
Thu May 28 2015, 06:30AM
mister_rf Registered Member #4465 Joined: Wed Apr 18 2012, 08:37AM
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 145
You may compare prices from different PCB manufacturers here: Link2
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Dago
Mon Jun 01 2015, 11:56AM
Dago Registered Member #538 Joined: Sun Feb 18 2007, 08:33PM
Location: Finland
Posts: 181
Artlav wrote ...

Wow.
So it's now possible to do a custom PCB for under $100?

And at PCBCart it's still $55 for 10 60x40 2 layer boards plus $50 for delivery, and that's for the "prototype" quality.

You can get 10pcs 2-layer 50x50mm boards for 9,9$ + shipping (like 7$). 4-layer ones are like 30$. I have personally used Elecrow, itead and seeedstudio.
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Justin
Mon Jun 01 2015, 07:51PM
Justin Registered Member #46164 Joined: Wed May 07 2014, 08:16AM
Location: California, USA
Posts: 89
I'd recommend dirtypcbs.com
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