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Wolfram
Fri Jan 16 2015, 02:13PM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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Davebmx wrote ...



sorry did you mean like this?


regards

Dave
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This is not right, see the attached schematic, taken from Link2 . The rectifier is drawn wrong in the application note, but otherwise it's correct


1421417582 33 FT168339 Qrih


Davebmx wrote ...

Hi Kolas!

been through Mr Burnetts page many times haha! he does say that aslong as the frequency is on the high side of resonance it should only cause loss of power or for the whole thing to drop out of resonance but i am having catastrophic failure of the igbt?

That's true for the LCLR or series resonant induction heaters driven from a half- or fullbridge, but not for this quasi-resonant circuit we're discussing here. For the quasi-resonant circuit, it is generally very important to have¨close to zero voltage switching at all times. The application note I linked shows some example waveforms. This type of induction heater is generally very easy to kill when operating open-loop from an oscillator.
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Davebmx
Sun Jan 25 2015, 04:53PM
Davebmx Registered Member #4394 Joined: Mon Feb 06 2012, 07:43PM
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thankyou Wolfram that is an excellent source¬


so, if i stick to my initial circuit sans the dodgy rectifier drawing i am in the right direction? I have the oscillator coded to an 8 bit chip as i have always planned to integrate feedback resonant control later on. To add this function however i would need to know what i should be measuring and also where to measure it from. I'm assuming i would need to measure it directly from the work coil through a large value resistor but how do i find the resonant frequency if i cant get the circuit to run without the feedback initially to get my baseline figures?

kind regards

Dave
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Linas
Sun Jan 25 2015, 07:24PM
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
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I like this circuit, it should heat up quite fast :D
(complete short circuit)
1422213865 1143 FT168339 1421417582 33 Ft168339 Qrih
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hen918
Sun Jan 25 2015, 10:09PM
hen918 Registered Member #11591 Joined: Wed Mar 20 2013, 08:20PM
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Linas wrote ...

I like this circuit, it should heat up quite fast :D
(complete short circuit)
1422213865 1143 FT168339 1421417582 33 Ft168339 Qrih


Yeah, I noticed that, I almost commented at the time.
You would have thought Fairchilds' QC would have picked that one up before it was published. It should be a bridge rectifier like in the other diagrams in that PDF.
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Wolfram
Tue Jan 27 2015, 06:17AM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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Wolfram wrote ...

The rectifier is drawn wrong in the application note, but otherwise it's correct.

I already mentioned this in my previous post.
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Davebmx
Wed Feb 04 2015, 09:59AM
Davebmx Registered Member #4394 Joined: Mon Feb 06 2012, 07:43PM
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This circuit is proving to be a real pain!

I have the square wave oscillator working well so i was hoping someone might have a good schematic for a mains powered induction heater similar to this but easier to get working? Something of a half wave topology that will be a bit more resilient to frequency change?

regards

Dave
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