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Patrick

Mon Dec 15 2014, 12:23AM

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The US NAVY really needs to worry more about Under Sea Vehicles then UAVs. If i were an enemy, that's how id do it. The laser may sort of be useful in ports.

unless theres some magic wand classified defense system we dont know of, a rolled-over-the-side torpedo /UAS in a port would be difficult to defend against. it could even lay in wait, unlike a normal torpedo. given the noise in a common port, they'd be nearly impossible to detect.

Carbon_Rod

Tue Dec 16 2014, 02:07AM

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@Fysac
This is not the thread on automated trolling.
Patrick has a crass sense of humor most engineers appreciate.

@Patrick
What was done to a completely innocent German citizen did not serve any medical purpose, and is currently officially classified as sexual assault according to a US medical panel.

â€œThe loss of the moral high-ground makes wars unwindableâ€ (1994 CIA strategist)
The current media narrative for the past decade seems to try to redefine what â€œmoralâ€ implies rather than face the question in honorable discourse.

The real problem of Realpolitik is not a technical one that needs solved, as even a mad-man can attest:
"Wer mit Ungeheuern kÃ¤mpft, mag zusehn, dass er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird. Und wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein." (Friedrich Nietzsche)

Patrick

Tue Dec 16 2014, 02:27AM

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Carbon_Rod wrote ...

Patrick has a crass sense of humor most engineers appreciate.

its about time some of you bastards recognized.

Through the miracle of the great all knowing Google:

"He who fights with monsters might see to it that he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you of."
(Friedrich Nietzsche)

yeah but here at Chico State we have "beer colon consumption", (which often results in alcohol poisoning). If a nations youth willing subject themselves to this treatment, is it really torture?

In any case, Diane Feinstein (D) from Commun-fornia, has no business criticizing the tactics used in the past. She was not only aware of, but signed off on (EIT's) with great vigor. The only senator or representative who ever really made the moral or legal argument was Jane Harmon, also (D-CA) and she did so while the smoke was still going up. so spare me Diane's false tears, now that were conveniently far enough away from 9/11. Remember, we Americans had seen Anthrax, high jackings, building collapse, and anyone with a brain was worried if the next week or year we'd see worse.

Any true war (of any real length) has involved "questionable" acts. (with a few exceptions like the 6-day war) I fully admit its possible for nations to go to far. like the Russians captured by the Germans. Or the Americans captured and murdered by the Japanese.

Carbon_Rod

Tue Dec 16 2014, 09:31AM

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Indeed, rhetoric to re-frame the context of atrocities is not new. The horrendous crimes of WWII Japanese prison camps were notorious, and after the war ended it took many years for people to forget rather than forgive. The only exception was that the people performing the water-boarding on our soldiers served jail time for their acts under international law. Rest assured, people were not concerned about the technical sophistication of the bucket used in the act.

Fysac

Tue Dec 16 2014, 01:56PM

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Patrick

Tue Dec 16 2014, 10:47PM

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OK back to the laser, there should be a rock band on stage on an episode of "the Simpsons" the lead singer gets struck between the eyes, and they all leave. I think it was Spinal Tap.

Found it!