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Directing lightning to hit where you want? Could be easier than you expect.

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Forty
Tue Oct 28 2014, 07:45PM
Forty Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
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I've always thought a lightning powered railgun would be interesting.
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hen918
Tue Oct 28 2014, 08:41PM
hen918 Registered Member #11591 Joined: Wed Mar 20 2013, 08:20PM
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Forty wrote ...

I've always thought a lightning powered railgun would be interesting.

I think lightning would be too fast for a railgun, a Lorentz ring shooter would be good - you want the highest dv/dt possible
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue Nov 18 2014, 08:16PM
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Maybe a car crusher smile
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Signification
Wed Feb 04 2015, 04:34AM
Signification Registered Member #54278 Joined: Sat Jan 17 2015, 04:42AM
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I can tell you what those signals are (were) used for...learned the hard way...
I can closely relate to that video railroad track experiment--here is a description of one of my similar 'experiment' (~1988) and the shocking result. My house is a little over 100 yards from a railroad track, two-way tracks, thus four rails. As a teenager, my friends and I enjoyed 'playing' around the tracks, doing things like making art from trains crushing things placed on the rails: ex, one of those 5 cent packs of BB's placed under the teeth of a fork created an 'artistic' piece and made me $5. I also mashed a nickel on the rail--it was wide as the rail and thin enough to tear by hand! BION: double stick Scotch tape held it on the track.

OK, I got off on a tangent here, sorry...

To get back on topic, I noticed one night --sparks-- while dragging some cable across the tracks. Catching my interest, I ran home and got my voltmeter and measured several volts (pulsating DC) across the rails. just as in the video (of which I couldn't understand a word), I eventually hooked a speaker across the rails, getting some really cool 'alien sounding' effects that was quite soothing. As there were two sets of rails, I naturally wired them in series for more "volume" I ended up connecting to the four rails, concealing the wires, and running the wire pair, through a wooded area, to my house, through a window into my room and connected to a speaker--just for fun. I got many sounds and could even determine when a train was approaching. That thing stayed there for years--I had almost forgotten about it. Even when they were converting the double tracks to a single track--I guess this is when the wires were discovered an traced straight to me, since one day (my birthday) there was a knock at my door--I opened the door and the driveway was filled with police cars and a huge railroad company truck (which looked like a train car on tires) was parked in the road. The police asked me if this was my house and did I run that wire. When I responded honestly, out came the handcuffs and I got a ride with a convoy to the city jail house. I was interrogated by the police and railroad officials. I explained why I did this and ,luckily, the railroad guys believed me--the police did NOT want to, but no charges were filed--maybe 'birthday mercy'??

Well, the railroad guys actually became interested and we started exchanging information. They explained their concern, since the rails were actually used as signal wires to control the railside 'traffic' lights. I explained I was only listening. When they were convinced I wasn't trying to control train traffic (or worse), I was released--with a court date.

So...the rails were used as electrical 'wires' connected to the railroad 'lights'. I'm sure all that has changed since thirty years.
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hen918
Wed Feb 04 2015, 08:25PM
hen918 Registered Member #11591 Joined: Wed Mar 20 2013, 08:20PM
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Signification wrote ...

I can tell you what those signals are (were) used for...learned the hard way...
I can closely relate to that video railroad track experiment--here is a description of one of my similar 'experiment' (~1988) and the shocking result. My house is a little over 100 yards from a railroad track, two-way tracks, thus four rails. As a teenager, my friends and I enjoyed 'playing' around the tracks, doing things like making art from trains crushing things placed on the rails: ex, one of those 5 cent packs of BB's placed under the teeth of a fork created an 'artistic' piece and made me $5. I also mashed a nickel on the rail--it was wide as the rail and thin enough to tear by hand! BION: double stick Scotch tape held it on the track.

OK, I got off on a tangent here, sorry...

To get back on topic, I noticed one night --sparks-- while dragging some cable across the tracks. Catching my interest, I ran home and got my voltmeter and measured several volts (pulsating DC) across the rails. just as in the video (of which I couldn't understand a word), I eventually hooked a speaker across the rails, getting some really cool 'alien sounding' effects that was quite soothing. As there were two sets of rails, I naturally wired them in series for more "volume" I ended up connecting to the four rails, concealing the wires, and running the wire pair, through a wooded area, to my house, through a window into my room and connected to a speaker--just for fun. I got many sounds and could even determine when a train was approaching. That thing stayed there for years--I had almost forgotten about it. Even when they were converting the double tracks to a single track--I guess this is when the wires were discovered an traced straight to me, since one day (my birthday) there was a knock at my door--I opened the door and the driveway was filled with police cars and a huge railroad company truck (which looked like a train car on tires) was parked in the road. The police asked me if this was my house and did I run that wire. When I responded honestly, out came the handcuffs and I got a ride with a convoy to the city jail house. I was interrogated by the police and railroad officials. I explained why I did this and ,luckily, the railroad guys believed me--the police did NOT want to, but no charges were filed--maybe 'birthday mercy'??

Well, the railroad guys actually became interested and we started exchanging information. They explained their concern, since the rails were actually used as signal wires to control the railside 'traffic' lights. I explained I was only listening. When they were convinced I wasn't trying to control train traffic (or worse), I was released--with a court date.

So...the rails were used as electrical 'wires' connected to the railroad 'lights'. I'm sure all that has changed since thirty years.

You were charged? For what? criminal damage? Don't think it would happen in the UK...
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Signification
Thu Feb 05 2015, 05:31PM
Signification Registered Member #54278 Joined: Sat Jan 17 2015, 04:42AM
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No, It's a very small town, the mayor knew of my "gadget" habits, so...end of story. Also, back then (early 80's), another thing that caused 'commotion' was my portable HeNe's on foggy nights. This long before that little red dot was "familiar"
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