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[moved] 24,000j Capacitor Bank (Now Complete)

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Plasma Lover
Wed Apr 22 2009, 03:21PM
Plasma Lover Registered Member #1911 Joined: Mon Jan 05 2009, 06:30PM
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aonomus wrote ...

Thats why I meant more a reinforced metal plate mounted against a cart on wheels, with the coil solidly in place so all the energy goes into acceleration...

Half of the energy would go into acceleration of the work coil, pushing it backwards, along with the cart. Then there's the eddy currents induced in the plate you suggested behind the work coil, which would cause the work coil to -

A: Fly apart, starting in the center or the outer edge, then having less force in the opposite part of the coil because of DC resistance.

B: Fly apart because it goes flying off of the metal plate and gets hammered into the ground at 20'/s

C: Push the cart back, because of its wheels. Possibly pushing the cart over.

It's obvious which is the most desirable. Of course, the other two may be more fun...
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aonomus
Wed Apr 22 2009, 06:01PM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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Well I meant more along the lines of strapping the coil to a solid object that is bolted into the ground...

Exploding work coil right behind your butt sounds fun though.....
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FastMHz
Wed Apr 22 2009, 07:33PM
FastMHz Registered Member #179 Joined: Thu Feb 16 2006, 02:08AM
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It'd be rather neat if I could get a *low cost* accelerometer to see what these things are doing in that area...know of any? I've seen Mythbusters use those packing sensors that break...
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EEYORE
Wed Apr 22 2009, 07:39PM
EEYORE Registered Member #99 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:10PM
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Im surprised these capacitors have lasted so long. How many discharges would you estimate have been done to them?
Matt
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FastMHz
Wed Apr 22 2009, 07:46PM
FastMHz Registered Member #179 Joined: Thu Feb 16 2006, 02:08AM
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Probably nearing a couple hundred...I did have 2 individual failures that required replacement. Closer inspection revealed they were of different contstruction, and therefore, were unmatched to the rest of the bank.

ed: I fully expect the system to slowly self destruct...and I'll run it into the ground. At that time, I'll look for HV pulse caps of similar capacity
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Renesis
Wed Apr 22 2009, 08:18PM
Renesis Registered Member #2028 Joined: Mon Mar 16 2009, 08:13PM
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I would like to see this coil placed inside a sturdy, low box of half an inch steel plates welded together, just to see what kind of dents it would make. Mechanically bending such thick plates take a lot of force.
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hotcrazyfruit
Thu Apr 23 2009, 12:53AM
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OMG wow thats insane, i thought my 5kj bank was huge.. lol. i think you should try making a large rail gun. ov course after your coil gun. but i think both will do VERY well with 24 kilojoules, and mouser sells 44500 amp 8.3ms SCR's, at 600volts. dunno if that helps, i could PM you other sources ,if need be.
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Fraggle
Thu Apr 23 2009, 08:21AM
Fraggle Registered Member #1526 Joined: Mon Jun 09 2008, 12:56AM
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A railgun with all those caps in parallel would be staggering.
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Hon1nbo
Fri Apr 24 2009, 01:17AM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
Location: North Texas
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FastMHz wrote ...

It'd be rather neat if I could get a *low cost* accelerometer to see what these things are doing in that area...know of any? I've seen Mythbusters use those packing sensors that break...

you can buy the actual accelerometers from a place like Spark Fun
or you could use a Wii Controller and a Bluetooth connection

my curiosity is if these types of sensors will be affected by the pulse generated without having to use annoying EM shielding... which would likely have to include the power to such sensitive devices...

personally, I use my High Speed Camera for that kind of stuff... but $500 isn't "low cost" for most people... I had to wait years for one.
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rp181
Fri Apr 24 2009, 01:38AM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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Those are called "shockwatch", google it. They have a variety of levels.I have a accelerameter, 3 axis 5G, it is about a 1" square PCB. It uses a I2C interface, if you can do that, i will be happy to point you where you can get one.
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