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Proud Mary
Thu Jan 31 2013, 08:56PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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What about moisture causing intermittent conduction - tracking, sparks, arcs - from the anode terminal to a point of lower potential? This would cause Va to collapse momentarily, which would be registered as a count.
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radhoo
Thu Jan 31 2013, 09:03PM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
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That is an interesting idea, however the humidity chart shows the device had much harder times the last week, without a negative impact on its data accuracy:
Link2

For the last month or so, we had bad weather, with the humidity value hitting its max value (99%). On the other hand, today it was a nice warm day, and humidity was as low as 55% RH.

So the air was reasonably dry, and the temperature at that hour (18 pm ) was too high for condense to take place, above 10 degrees celsius:
Link2

Unfortunately I can't figure this out. All the sensors show very reasonable values. Nothing seems abnormal, except the CPM data. And only for 6 minutes.. than its back to normal.

Having a malfunction would be the simplest explanation, I just can't see where this fits in the story, given all the other data.
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radhoo
Thu Jan 31 2013, 09:09PM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
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The two links above point to real time data, so in case others will revisit this thread some time from now, I've also attached the static images: First is humidity, second is temperature, for the last 14 days.

Humidity:
1359666556 1938 FT111231 Humidity

Temperature:
1359666559 1938 FT111231 Temperature
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Proud Mary
Thu Jan 31 2013, 10:51PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Perhaps you should also consider strong local impulse interference, EMI, RFI.

It seems so unusual an event that you should only consider it to be a possible gamma burst when all other possibilities have been definitely excluded.
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radhoo
Fri Feb 01 2013, 08:40AM
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:Product: Forecast Discussion
:Issued: 2013 Feb 01 0030 UTC
# Prepared by the U.S. Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center
#
*EXPERIMENTAL PRODUCT*

Solar Activity

.24 hr Summary...
Two significant filament eruptions, at least one of which appears to be
Earth-directed, were observed during the period. The first was visible
in SDO AIA 304 imagery beginning at about 31/0439 UTC and lasting until
31/0725 UTC. This filament erupted from the southeast limb. A CME was
subsequently visible in SOHO/LASCO C2 coronagraph imagery around 31/0800
UTC. Analysis suggests the CME had an Earth-directed component and was
moving at approximately 550 km/s. No radio emissions were reported with
this event. The second filament eruption occurred in the northeast
quadrant. It was first observed in SDO AIA 304 imagery at 31/1543 UTC
and lasted until 31/1742 UTC. We are awaiting coronagraph imagery to
begin an analysis of this event. Otherwise, solar activity was low.
Region 1663 (S09W18) produced an impulsive C1 x-ray event at 31/0434
UTC. Region 1663 displayed modest growth and development over the
period, ending as the only bipolar region on the visible disk, a Cso
type group with beta magnetic characteristics.

.Forecast...
Solar activity is expected to be very low with a chance for C-class
flares, probably from Region 1663.

Energetic Particle

.24 hr Summary...
The greater than 2 MeV electron flux at geosynchronous orbit reached
moderate levels. The greater than 10 MeV proton flux at geosynchronous
orbit was at background levels.

.Forecast...
The greater than 2 MeV electron flux is expected to be at normal to
moderate levels. The greater than 10 MeV proton flux is expected to
remain at background levels.

Solar Wind

.24 hr Summary...
Solar wind at the ACE spacecraft was nominal. Wind speed was in the low
to mid 300 km/s range. Bz values ranged between 5 and -5 nT
and Bt values ranged from 1 to 4 nT. The sector orientation varied
between negative and positive throughout the day.

.Forecast...
A coronal hole is expected to become geoeffective beginning on day 2 (02
Feb) with wind speed increasing to 400 km/s. A preliminary WSA-ENLIL
model run suggests a further increase to around 450 km/s is expected
mid-day on day 3 (03 Feb) as the CME mentioned earlier scrapes by the
magnetosphere.

Geospace

.24 hr Summary...
The geomagnetic field was quiet.

.Forecast...
A coronal hole is expected to become geoeffective beginning on day 2 (02
Feb) bringing a slight chance for unsettled to active geomagnetic
conditions. A preliminary WSA-ENLIL model run suggests the CME
mentioned above will arrive mid-day on day 3 (03 Feb) bringing unsettled
to active conditions with a slight chance for minor storm conditions,
particularly at high latitudes.

Attached NOAA 3day GOES Flux Monitor chart.

1359708021 1938 FT111231 Xray
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radhoo
Fri Feb 01 2013, 10:28AM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
Location: Romania
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and here is an interesting overlay, taking into account the time coordinates, UTC for GOES, and GMT+2 (winter hour) for uradmonitor :

1359714515 1938 FT111231 Overlay
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Proud Mary
Fri Feb 01 2013, 11:03AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
Posts: 4992
Do you remember a paper I sent you a few years ago about a Russian 256 tube GM array?

Apart from increasing the effective aperture, a GM tube array gives high immunity to false triggering when each tube is supplied by an independent anode supply, and parts of the array are configured in anti-coincidence mode, and other parts in coincidence mode.

A small array of 8 tubes configured as 4 pairs would give an excellent confidence interval compared with using only one. Even those crappy СИ 39Г would probably do OK in an array. smile
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radhoo
Fri Feb 01 2013, 11:19AM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
Location: Romania
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You are probably right. It's too early to jump to any conclusions. Using multiple tubes would surely bring some benefits. Maybe for the next version.

Anyway, now it's February, and the next few days I'll be building the second unit. Guess where I'm going to send that? :)
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Proud Mary
Fri Feb 01 2013, 12:24PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
Posts: 4992
radhoo wrote ...

You are probably right. It's too early to jump to any conclusions. Using multiple tubes would surely bring some benefits. Maybe for the next version.

Anyway, now it's February, and the next few days I'll be building the second unit. Guess where I'm going to send that? :)

Plase don't hurry on my account, Radu, as I shall be very busy this month and on into March before I will have enough time to take on anything new.
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Conundrum
Sat Feb 02 2013, 07:20PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
Location: CI, Earth
Posts: 4059
Does anyone know where to get these tubes in bulk?

-A
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