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Penguin7471
Mon May 22 2006, 12:37PM Print
Penguin7471 Registered Member #71 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:23AM
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I recently modified my old ignition coil driver and hooked up a small work coil to it to try out induction heating for fun. The work coil is some random 16 gauge wire, ~40 turns.

With 24V input, at ~3A, output freq ~300kHz, I can get a 1.5cm long, 0.5cm diameter steel thread to red hot within about half a minute.

Uhm, is this bad, good, or...? I have no idea how efficient the setup is, so I was wondering if any of you experienced induction heaters could offer any advice? Sorry, if it weren't for the lack of fresh batteries for the camera...
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c4r0
Mon May 22 2006, 02:59PM
c4r0 Registered Member #151 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 02:53PM
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This is my setup made today:
1148309620 151 FT9965 Ind2


It takes about 15sec @ 100V 1A power supply to get this result:
1148309620 151 FT9965 Ind1


Freq is 270kHz and the screw is about 5mm diamerter just like your object. I'm not sure is it good result neither, but i think it can't be bad to get a screw red with only 100W of power smile
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Penguin7471
Tue May 23 2006, 05:42AM
Penguin7471 Registered Member #71 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:23AM
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Ah, very similar results to mine.

My O'scope isnt working, so I just tune the frequency until the current draw is minimal, this seems to provide maximum heating transfer to the steel. Is this how you tuned yours, or am I just strange?
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c4r0
Tue May 23 2006, 08:16AM
c4r0 Registered Member #151 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 02:53PM
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I'm tuning my stuff using o-scope connected to transformer's primary or measuring work coil current (my poor self-made current transformer shows about 30Arms in resonance). But in my case current draw is the biggest in tune (as i said before 1 - 1.5A from 50-100V) confused When it is not tuned current is very small, about 100mA. Hmmm ....

This is a schematic:

1148372088 151 FT9965 Ind


And this is today's morning result amazed
1148372009 151 FT9965 Ind3
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Wilson
Tue May 23 2006, 09:25AM
Wilson Registered Member #78 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:27AM
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Just in case you haven't already previously seen, here's my thread outlining my prototype 2kW induction heater.
Heating iron is quite easy due to hysteresis losses, the trick is to have the coupling between the work coil and the workpiece as high as possible.
75VA to get iron glowing within 30secs isn't bad. from memory, it took me 10secs to heat up a similar object with 200W.
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Maz
Wed May 24 2006, 12:58AM
Maz Registered Member #111 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:04AM
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this is quality suff guys, i wish i knew more about it.
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Simon
Wed May 24 2006, 02:05AM
Simon Registered Member #32 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 08:58AM
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Maz wrote ...

this is quality suff guys, i wish i knew more about it.
Then do a web search or ask a specific question here.

wrote ...

E. Make sure each post has a point. Unless you're in the chatting board, there's no need for a one-liner post that doesn't have any real content. Save the one-liners and offhanded comments for private messages.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Wed May 24 2006, 06:36AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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That's really great!

A friend showed me how to tap off of the AC on a SMPS. And I can tell you that it takes a while to get red hot even with 800W behind the coil! So you really got it!

I'm going to get away from using a SMPS and do it right. At the time I needed a demo quick for the college open house.

Next step, reduce 3/8 nuts to a molten mass! hehehe
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Wilson
Wed May 24 2006, 08:21AM
Wilson Registered Member #78 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:27AM
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good luck! Be sure to try heating non-ferrous metals as well as ferrous. Its quite a challenge to melt anything non ferrous.
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Bored Chemist
Wed May 24 2006, 06:27PM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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"Its quite a challenge to melt anything non ferrous."
I'd start with gallium wink
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