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Registered Member #79
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My sister sleepwalks. It was really creepy the first few times because until about the fourth time it happened she didn't know who I was. After that, she knew who I was. It was pretty interesting, she had her eyes open, and would talk to you, but she would sometimes run into things and would always reply with nonsense.
Registered Member #358
Joined: Sat Apr 01 2006, 06:13AM
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Fevers can give you really weird dreams...
I was having 'semi conscious' dreams where I know where I am and everything, but at the same time, I'm also inside a "particle accelerator", and I had to stay still so that the particles would collide right. There was another one of them where I had to prove stuff about the angle I was laying down and I couldn't do it. There were many other dreams like this.
All of them were extremely stressful which made the night horrible, but interesting now.
When I was napping the other day, I was having real dreams about stuff, like running up a huge spiral staircase, but I knew I was sleeping, so I could just make someone else appear, and they did. The weird part was that I was also awake. I knew I was on the futon on the floor, and knew that my mom was in the kitchen at the exact same time. When she made a loud noise, I knew thats what the noise was, but in my dream, the guy that was there clapped really loud at the exact same time anyway. It was really awesome getting both views at once, and seeing how amazingly quickly one's brain can come up with explanations for the noise. I don't know if it had to do with the 800mg of ibuprofen, or what, but it was really interesting.
I don't really understand the excitement over lucid dreaming. I tend to realise that I'm dreaming a lot, and can change stuff if I want to, but then I know it's not real, and the fun kinda goes away.. I usually wake up after that too.
If you've never heard of melatonin, it's a great over the counter sleep aid with a neat side effect of lots of vivid dreams :).
Geometrically Frustrated Registered Member #6
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JimmyH wrote ... ...I was sleeping, so I could just make someone else appear, and they did. The weird part was that I was also awake. I knew I was on the futon on the floor, and knew that my mom was in the kitchen at the exact same time. When she made a loud noise, I knew thats what the noise was, but in my dream, the guy that was there clapped really loud at the exact same time anyway...
I do that a lot in my math class. I try to stay awake, but the steady stream of numbers and mathematical functions being thrown at me are extremely effective at putting me asleep. I usually end up daydreaming and completely spacing out. I'll fall asleep/wake up in quick cycles, but it's confusing because I don't know how much time has passed. I think the term for that is "micro napping." It happens when I'm driving while very tired, too.
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I don't really understand the excitement over lucid dreaming. I tend to realise that I'm dreaming a lot, and can change stuff if I want to, but then I know it's not real, and the fun kinda goes away.. I usually wake up after that too.
Its likely you haven't really experienced a true lucid dream. Dream awareness alone does not constitute dream lucidity, nor does the ability to change things in a dream mean you are lucid dreaming. Many can change things at will, not recognizing that they are actually in a dream, nor obtaining the high level of awareness that constitutes high level lucidity. Also, you state that you change stuff, then you know its not real, and the fun goes way and you wake up. This frame of mind regarding dream awareness actually is a psychological (albeit a common one too) block that prevents one from attaining true lucidity.
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Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 08:58AM
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JimmyH wrote ...
Fevers can give you really weird dreams...
I was having 'semi conscious' dreams where I know where I am and everything, but at the same time, I'm also inside a "particle accelerator", and I had to stay still so that the particles would collide right. There was another one of them where I had to prove stuff about the angle I was laying down and I couldn't do it. There were many other dreams like this.
All of them were extremely stressful which made the night horrible, but interesting now.
I've had dreams like that after too much study. Not fun and not refreshing. I once dreamt that all the people I knew were conic sections...
Registered Member #358
Joined: Sat Apr 01 2006, 06:13AM
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Its likely you haven't really experienced a true lucid dream. Dream awareness alone does not constitute dream lucidity, nor does the ability to change things in a dream mean you are lucid dreaming. Many can change things at will, not recognizing that they are actually in a dream, nor obtaining the high level of awareness that constitutes high level lucidity.
I seem to meet both of these criterion, since I am completely aware I am dreaming, and can control what goes on.
You obviously have a different definition of lucid dreaming. I'd like to hear it, maybe the extra criteria can help me figure out why I'm not having any fun.
Also, you state that you change stuff, then you know its not real, and the fun goes way and you wake up. This frame of mind regarding dream awareness actually is a psychological (albeit a common one too) block that prevents one from attaining true lucidity.
Not exactly. I realise stuff isn't real first. I don't do tests or anything, I just have a habit of noticing. Then I get the feeling of "well, I could just do whatever, but it's not real, so...". If I keep going with it anyway, it usually just falls apart and I wake up.
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Nothing lucid here, but after building the 5AM SSTC, I found in my first class I was excessively tired...
...I never closed my eyes, but I would drift off for seconds at a time and come to finding that I'd written nonsensical words on the page (like "downstairs"... "fuchsia"... "captain"...) and it seemed to be related to whatever I was thinking as soon as I lost focus. I don't remember writing those words, but I know I never stopped writing whenever I was "thinking".
As a result, I found myself furiously scribbling out my own writing every ten seconds or so, and at the end of my maths class, I had a page half full of strange scribbled out words that drifted from between the lines to up and over, or down through the lines. I can't write straight when I'm thinking, it seems.
I also can't think straight when I'm writing.
..and god knows what I could have been thinking about every 10 seconds to pop those words into my head.
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