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kjjohn
Sat Jul 17 2010, 03:36AM Print
kjjohn Registered Member #2985 Joined: Fri Jul 09 2010, 04:05PM
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I don't know much about this kind of thing, so bear with me. I thought of an interesting idea, which has probably been tried before. Could you create some kind of thrust engine powered by water, by passing the water through an electric arc hot enough to thermally decompose the water into hydrogen and oxygen, then ignite the mixture (of course, more oxygen would be provided through intakes)? Or would all the water vaporize to steam before it could decompose?
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Adam Munich
Sat Jul 17 2010, 04:32AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Chances are you'd just have a steam jet, an extinguished arc, and or a short circuit.
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Bjørn
Sat Jul 17 2010, 09:55AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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It will work if done right but you never have access to enough electrical power on a rocket to make it useful. You don't need any extra oxygen since water contains the perfect amount.
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HVgeek
Sat Jul 17 2010, 10:26AM
HVgeek Registered Member #2998 Joined: Tue Jul 13 2010, 08:34PM
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...And you won't gain any extra energy from it. It might be used to increase the thrust (like some type of electrothermal device) beyond the pathetic levels of pure ion motors. But then you will still need a fuel (water) that is bulky, instead of using just the ions in the air. Might be cool as a proof of concept, but I see little practical use in it.
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klugesmith
Sun Jul 18 2010, 12:20AM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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Yes, no energy is gained by dissociating and recombining H2O molecules.
Water can and has been used as a propellant in electrothermal thrusters
(variously called arcjets or resistojets).
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