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New supermagnetic material is 18% stronger than any material so far

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Conundrum
Sat May 29 2010, 05:19PM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Great Scott! Shades of magnesium diboride...

Is it just me or would such a material if stable be useful for building high efficiency motors.

Note, nitride chemistry, same as high efficiency LEDs.

-A

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klugesmith
Sun May 30 2010, 09:43PM
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Probably yes, if it could be made in bulk instead of thin films.
I'm pretty sure the exceptional property is a large SATURATION FLUX DENSITY,
which means it would make good flux-concentrating pole pieces, not permanent magnets.

It took a while to interpret the expression "most magnetic" in the lay article.
First hint was where it says "predicted that iron-cobalt should be the most magnetic material." That points to soft magnetic alloys like Permendur / Hiperco, which saturate at about 2.3 teslas.

It's further clarified by the "more information" link, which is an abstract of article titled " Origin of Giant Saturation Magnetization in Fe16N2 thin film". That suggests that as long as the stuff is being magnetized by an external field, it develops an extraordinarily high magnetic moment per unit volume.
Might someday be valuable for magnetic disk data-storage technology.
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GhostNull
Mon May 31 2010, 10:49AM
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This would be good for the slotted toroid idea
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IntraWinding
Wed Jun 02 2010, 01:28AM
IntraWinding Registered Member #2261 Joined: Mon Aug 03 2009, 01:19AM
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I think it's a sad state of affairs when science press releases are so hyped that even the technically literate struggle to work out what the real 'advance' is supposed to be.
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Steve Conner
Wed Jun 02 2010, 09:14AM
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New press release is 18% stronger than any blurb so far!
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klugesmith
Thu Jun 03 2010, 03:30PM
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How many mistakes can you see in the penultimate sentence of original news article?

"If the magnets can be manufactured commercially they could allow computer manufacturers to use smaller write heads that could hold more information. "
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