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HV Enthusiast
Fri May 05 2006, 12:50AM Print
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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Was searching some things on the internet and found one of my images on someone's blog. Of all places for it to end up . . .

http://lookwhatidid1.tripod.com/id14.html

And who else to take my photo . . .

http://lookwhatidid1.tripod.com/id10.html

Its nice to inspire at least a few people from time to time . . . cry
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Liam
Fri May 05 2006, 01:07AM
Liam Registered Member #113 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:40AM
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Um... what were you searching for?
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Cesiumsponge
Fri May 05 2006, 01:44AM
Cesiumsponge Registered Member #397 Joined: Wed Apr 19 2006, 12:56AM
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The Internet has no regards for intellectual property. That's one of the biggest hurdles of my ever completing a website and uploading information, images, renderings, and other pieces of data which took hard work to compile (that, and I'm lazy to learn html). I find comparing notes in forums and live chat is much more helpful, but it'd be really nice to whip up a website and display the things you're proud of...without someone else nabbing them as their own research or toiling.
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Desmogod
Fri May 05 2006, 02:59AM
Desmogod Registered Member #139 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 11:01AM
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Cesiumsponge wrote ...

...without someone else nabbing them as their own research or toiling.

Stealing one persons idea is plagiurism, Stealing lots of ideas is research.

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Part Scavenger
Fri May 05 2006, 03:46AM
Part Scavenger Registered Member #79 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:35AM
Location: Arkansas
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Yeah, my dad calls it organized plagurism cheesey

That girl had your DRSSTC picture? Wierd. I wonder ho

Ow, *&^%! angry Words of wisdom guys, don't play with an alligator clip too close to your face. Holy crap!

Dang. As I was saying, I wonder how she stumbled across that?
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Carbon_Rod
Fri May 05 2006, 06:33AM
Carbon_Rod Registered Member #65 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:43AM
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In short -- stamp all images on your website with your name/URL/date and a © (one visible and the other hidden in the background). Its free advertising and fights automated remote linkers.

There are two main philosophies for thinkers, builders, and artists.

A.) Keep things secret:

Upside:
+ Gives one a minor technological head start.
+ Does not disclose ones area of interest.

Downside:
- Someone smarter than you will get around to figuring it out too.
- It is rare people can keep concepts from leaking (glimmering generalities have a way of permeating throughout society.)
- Hard to gain financial backing for something that may become public domain.
- Academic review and feedback cycle is interrupted.
- There may be legal barriers that force this option.


B.) Make things public:

Upside:
+ May draw academic and financial attention to your contribution
+ In theory it allows you to sue companies who infringe on your designs.
+ Allows academic peer review process to verify the merit of your research
+ People accelerate the research area by distributing the man-hours and increase likelihood of real progress.
+ Effective at fighting patent trolls as technology is released faster.
+ One gets to see the impact of their work.

Downside:
- Places one at a technological equilibrium with some very powerful dedicated organisations.
- May draw unwanted competition or criticism sooner than expected
- May have problems with knock-offs ruining ones design pitch to the public.
- One may find out no one cares that his or her unique idea may not be so unique.
- May be difficult or impossible to commercialize it effectively.


I think everyone starts out at: 100% A and 0% B
(or 0%A and 100% B for some academic people.)

Overtime one realizes their thought process is not isolated from society. I would say people eventually decide what’s appropriate to disclose even though it may not be advantageous for the individual.
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Coyote Wilde
Fri May 05 2006, 09:11PM
Coyote Wilde Registered Member #175 Joined: Tue Feb 14 2006, 09:32PM
Location: Sudbury, ON
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In this case, while it's not cited, his image could very well be fair use. Just posted up as "one of my favourite pictures" is hardly an extensive violation of intellectual property, at any rate.
A watermark would have been nice, and certainly gotten EVR credit in this case.
But, hey, more flattery than anything else--u sur can tak a pretty pic, EVR.
Another upside: she's a guitar player, and a cute kid; one of the younger members might earn points with her for an audio modulated coil. We know you guys need the help. tongue
I'm still shocked that any of us still don't-- especially me! suprised

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Tesladownunder
Sat May 06 2006, 02:28AM
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
Location: Bunbury, Australia
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I had someone show a picture of my 18 inch diam coil. He ("Dr" Ronnie Milione) said that he made it himself to replicate the Philadelphia experiment. It was from an alternative site associated with a radio station, but it wasn't up there long.
It was pointed out to me by Michael Chavez.

Kind of expect that sort of stuff if your pictures are good enough cheesey

Peter
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Thu May 11 2006, 12:08AM
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any of these look familiar :-D
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Alex
Thu May 11 2006, 12:40AM
Alex Geometrically Frustrated
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Punk rock skater chicks who like TCs... Don't think I've met too many of those yet.
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