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Registered Member #49
Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:05AM
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amusing, yes. Humorous, very. at the same time, however, aren't we, here, enlightened enough to admit that linux does make some task which are painfully simple in Window very very cumbersome? I use Windows at home and Linux at work for good reason; at home, I don't want to fuck around for 20 minutes getting my printer installed, I just want to plug it in and it to work. The most annoying people, to me, are those users of either camp, Linus OR Windows who insist that either is better. The fact remains that Linux sucks ass in the home, and Windows sucks ass at work.
Registered Member #32
Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 08:58AM
Location: Australia
Posts: 549
Andrew wrote ...
enlightened enough to admit that linux does make some task which are painfully simple in Window very very cumbersome?
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Macs, however, have no place anywhere
Of course, Windows makes many tasks that are unpainfully simple in *nix very tedious. Then, that doesn't contradict your comment but I felt like pointing it out.
As a reminder, if this thread shows any more tendency towards, "Windows sucks", "No, Macs suck harder", it will get locked by someone. In fact, It wouldn't surprise me if next time I check this thread it's locked already.
Registered Member #65
Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:43AM
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For server design a *nix box will always win out as its cost per processor is very economical (or free.) They typically are low maintenance, have a long service life, and generally do not need upgrading (clusters are very efficient.) The command line is very powerful for those that know how to use it properly. The new GUIs for *nux are profoundly more advanced – yet contain many windows workflow bugs some users may find annoying.
GimpShop is GPL and runs on windows or *nux -- price again make this a great option for most people ( $0 versus a few grand.). It’s ironic but some application/game designers build in Linux because it’s easier to back port (some IDEs make it transparent) to other platforms (and generally its free.)
Windows is popular for multimedia, standard business formats, and cheap hardware support. Most of these problems will slowly disappear as some countries adopt the low cost media appliances like cell phones, PDAs, and MP3 players..
If they were vehicles: Linux would be a formula 1 car – professional driver needed. Windows would be a clowns’ SUV– it would get you there eventually, but cost you.
“Linux’s strength is its not windows -- Linux’s weakness is its not windows†(?) It depends on what you are doing.
Registered Member #30
Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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No Mac bashing please, Macs don't suck any more since OS X Once they have Intel CPUs and can dual-boot Windows, they will be perfect, especially as far as Bill is concerned
There are other editors than vi, but I always got the impression you need to know vi if you want to do anything serious, like run a Linux system with no X windows, or get your X working if it's not. It seems to be the equivalent of "edit" that came with MS-DOS: the one text editor that you can count on being available no matter how borked your box gets.
For a long time I used kedit, the Notepad clone that comes with KDE, for all my text file editing. I wrote some quite long academic papers using kedit to drive troff. (although in the end I gave up and dual booted with win95 so I could run MS Word.) Before that I think it was PICO on some old Solaris machine or other. I never "got" the vi/emacs thing.
I don't think the Formula 1 car/clown car analogy is particularly good. Nowadays, you can almost drive Linux to the store to get your groceries, without closing off all the roads and hiring a pit crew. I think it's more Uncle Cletus's souped up Ford Bronco vs. a Lincoln Navigator.
Vigilatny Registered Member #17
Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 02:47PM
Location: NL
Posts: 158
my OS car analogy:
vax/vms -- volvo (for absolute safety) *nix -- mac truck (requires a special license) windows -- ford explorer (good enough for most people exceptional at nothing) mac -- porsche boxster (for the "style conscious" and people with money to burn)
Incidentally the next computer I buy will probably be a mac laptop, I've yet to get linux to run to my satisfaction on a laptop.
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Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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Posts: 3068
Here is my OS toilet analogy:
Windows - Shit MAC - Some think its cool, but it is still shit. UNIX - Difficult *to* shit VAX/VMS - Bend over, this won't hurt a bit . . . DOS - Have to work quite a bit for a little bit of shit
Registered Member #27
Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
Location: Hyperborea
Posts: 2058
Windows - George Bush - Keeps blowing up in everybodys faces while robbing and abusing the users MAC - Silvio Berlusconi - Started in a backyard with a good idea and ended up as a pathetic freakshow Linux - Tony Blair - Criminally ignorant and based on ancient technology with a really bad record DOS - Nelson Mandela - Put in 8086 segmented jail by Intel and never really got out to prove anything
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