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Mates
Fri Apr 16 2010, 08:44PM Print
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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Not so often at this part of 4HV forum but I run into this and need to share it wink

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Anybody here ever tried?
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klugesmith
Fri Apr 16 2010, 10:49PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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I remember them from mid-Cold War days, and your article shows an earlier history.
Today's keyword to remember was "Bluing"; then Google pointed to
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Mates
Fri Apr 16 2010, 11:01PM
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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I made a first try - finally I found a use for my old etching solution... Just few drops and you get this amazed


1271458853 1025 FT87568 Detail

1271458853 1025 FT87568 Sg106092

1271458853 1025 FT87568 Sg106096
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IntraWinding
Sat Apr 17 2010, 12:05AM
IntraWinding Registered Member #2261 Joined: Mon Aug 03 2009, 01:19AM
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Yes, did that when I was younger, but called it a 'Chemical Garden'. I think Cobalt Chloride worked the best, or was it copper sulphate?

Alan
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MinorityCarrier
Sat Apr 17 2010, 01:52AM
MinorityCarrier Registered Member #2123 Joined: Sat May 16 2009, 03:10AM
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I did this when I was a kid, during the Cold War also. But then I discovered growing crystals, my dad got a "Order in Nature" Science study series crystal growing kit, and I left the garden behind. Potassium Chromium Sulfate Dodecahydrate octahedron crystals anyone?

Science education back those days was heavily emphasized, we were losing the space race to the Russians. Those were exciting times.
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Proud Mary
Sat Apr 17 2010, 05:07PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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I came across a 'magic garden' kit a few weeks ago on ebay UK when I was looking to buy some sodium silicate for making refractory cement. I've just looked again and couldn't find it, but perhaps it will be advertised again.

The wikipedia article gives a better understanding of the reactions than I could have given myself, and makes me wonder how the garden might evolve in the presence of a powerful external organising principle in the form of electrostatic and magnetic fields.

Later: I was looking in the wrong place. There is one here:

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Hon1nbo
Sat Apr 17 2010, 05:51PM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
Location: North Texas
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I have done these, using my own sodium silicate solution and old etching solution among other ingredients, the kits are still available here in the states (at least they were a few years ago when I last looked into it).

-Jimmy
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aonomus
Sat Apr 17 2010, 10:50PM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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Hey Mates, that FeCl3 etching solution looks like it turned into some sort of apocalyptic mushroom cloud of sorts... neat!
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IntraWinding
Sun Apr 18 2010, 01:30AM
IntraWinding Registered Member #2261 Joined: Mon Aug 03 2009, 01:19AM
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You can also grow unusual crystals in sodium silicate gels. Some are difficult or impossible to grow any other way. Link2
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ragnar
Sun Apr 18 2010, 08:52AM
ragnar Registered Member #63 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:18AM
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Decomposition of mercury thiocyanate is relevant smile It's the stuff of nightmares, and toxic with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9pioJWTk0 (Video)

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