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Maz
Wed Apr 26 2006, 02:55AM Print
Maz Registered Member #111 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:04AM
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i am trying to build a pc case with power switches that work like touch lamps. this is difficult because vital components need to be on when the computer is and i wish to have 3 switches.
with different functions

one for main power:
i want this to have no delay when turning on the system, but a 3 second delay before the power is switched

one for the fans:
i want a three second turn-on/off

and finally one for the lights:
i want to "voob" them on Small
an easy thing to do with a LM324 ic but i want them to stay on after the current is high.
then turn off the same way.
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Wed Apr 26 2006, 03:27AM
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to make a delay you just use a 555. You hook the reset up to the switch, and wire it as monostable. Since it triggers on falling edge, you need to use a pullup on the switch.

I supposse you could create the 'voob' by taking putting a mosfet across the cap in the 555, and driving the led off that... You could use a resistave divider (using like 1M of resistance) to get the right fading effect...

Is there anything the 555 can't do suprised

Or an even easier route would to get mikrobasic (or whatever) and burn a pic12f675 to do it...

Have fun!
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Maz
Sat Apr 29 2006, 01:39AM
Maz Registered Member #111 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:04AM
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what do you mean a pullup?

Once i trigger the 555, i can have it run for 1.5 secs.

the output from the 555 can run a transistor,
so i can power my ic(lm324) for its rise time (1.5s) and "voob" the LED on

but how could i keep it on

i could run another 555 independently from the premade system, and delay its function until 1.5s and then become the led's power source.

but how do you make a delay (original question), so i can run it afterwards.

can i even run a 555 continuously?
or is there better alternatives?



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Jim
Sat Apr 29 2006, 04:42PM
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voob.

How about "fade on?"
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Maz
Sun Apr 30 2006, 02:19AM
Maz Registered Member #111 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:04AM
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well that would be way too technical. especially I'm mostly asking for help from engineers when I'm a novice. i really don't feel like being swamped in the engineer dialect.

but i see your point.
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HV Enthusiast
Sun Apr 30 2006, 03:21AM
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What you are asking for is commonly known as power sequencing. You might have some luck finding a dedicated sequencing chip that has programmable delays (either digital or via RC) that you may use. Also, a microcontroller is a perfect solution for what you are asking, such as a PIC.

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Maz
Sun Apr 30 2006, 03:36AM
Maz Registered Member #111 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:04AM
Location: Menasha,Wisconsin
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while the fade on would be nice, it is not nessicary.

for this i must use a momentary switch (qprox qt110) so is there anyway i could make the momentary into a permenantly on switch until i tap it off again?

pic (from when i was going to buy one) are really expensive and i would need a programming kit. i dont feel like spending 100+ dollars for a light switch.
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Wolfram
Sun Apr 30 2006, 07:34AM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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Small PICs can cost around a dollar and a programmer can be made with a couple of resistors.

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Conundrum
Sun Apr 30 2006, 03:12PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi,
Other possibility is a simple R-C delay circuit with a transistor.

switch---resistor---capacitor across base-emitter junction.

-A
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Maz
Mon May 01 2006, 01:10AM
Maz Registered Member #111 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:04AM
Location: Menasha,Wisconsin
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Conundrum: thank you for your help! the delay would work by using a resistor to bleed into the capacitor.filling it until it reaches a high enough voltage to trigger the transistor.

am i correct?

anders: sorry, i got the value (cost) from an old magazine that sold it as a kit. the price was 129.00$ everything pre-made.
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