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Conundrum
Sun Sept 20 2009, 11:35PM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi all.

Seems that this is becoming the phosphor of choice for OLED experimentation.

Any ideas how hard it would be to synthesize some?

i did read that it generates yellow light in lightsticks, so perhaps it is possible to obtain an unused one and extract it
as for contact, i have some ITO "blanks" from used touchscreens...

regards, -A
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Proud Mary
Mon Sept 21 2009, 02:31AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Hi Andre, don't forget that the activity of scintillators, phosphors and fluophors is more often than not mediated by the presence of impurities or dopants, which cannot be added after the fact, but which must be introduced at some prior point in the synthesis chain. I'm no chemist, so you'd have to ask someone who really knows their stuff, but I would guess that the incorporation of oxygen defects into crystalline rubrene to activate it was a non-trivial matter, needing everything from fume cupboards, to hazardous waste disposal contracts, and an approved, inspected chemical storage area.

Chemiluminescence experiments where rubrene is just one of a number of possible fluophores - dyes - can certainly be performed by 'kitchen sink' chemistry, but remember that rubrene is a suspected carcinogen, whilst typical chemiluminescence solvents like dioctyl phthalate, (a PVC plasticiser known in the trade as DOP) which are often thought of as non-toxic, in terms of single exposures, are in fact established carcinogens in long term exposure models. It's gloopy stuff that will take forever to evaporate (which is why it is sometimes used as vacuum pump oil) so what you spill onto the wooden floor of your shed that sinks into the timber will be there for a very long time, long after you have forgotten the spillage, slowly releasing carcinogenic molecules into the air. (Giving myself the creeps here! smile )
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Conundrum
Wed Sept 23 2009, 06:48PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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hmm... well i've decanted it into two bottles, one containing the rubrene/phtalate ester mix and the other with peroxide/sensitizer.

Am being careful not to spill it, and disposing of any debris properly.

thanks for the safety tips...
regards, -A
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radiotech
Sat Mar 06 2010, 03:39PM
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Also lucifrin can used in aqueous solutions. In the rainforest it can be found at night by kicking a rotting log.

Luminous calcium sulphide (stinks) or yellow phosphorous (dont get it on your hands!!) are others to consider.

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