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Internet Explorer users will probably not notice anything, but Firefox users... I'll let you find out
A mate showed me this earlier and we thought the site had the funniest navigation we've ever seen, especially as we had had a website accessibility lecture the day before
I'd be interested to see what it does in other browsers too...
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I'm not sure what you were referring to, but the whole "let's have two navbars" thing rarely goes well. The left navbar has some issues with margins or somesuch, too, because some hovered items don't wrap.
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LOL! It's like one of those Shoot the bunny and win an iPod things, but accidental If you manage to catch one and click on it, it does indeed take you to the right page, so I guess it's not totally useless...
I looked at the source and it turns out the writer used the <marquee> tag which is non-standard and behaves differently in different browsers.
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Steve Conner wrote ...
LOL! It's like one of those Shoot the bunny and win an iPod things, but accidental If you manage to catch one and click on it, it does indeed take you to the right page, so I guess it's not totally useless...
I looked at the source and it turns out the writer used the <marquee> tag which is non-standard and behaves differently in different browsers.
Any one who writes comercial sites like me never use front side nav code depedant on browsers; instead I use a php class and the php engine to run all my navigation bars.
This way I know that it will work in any browser and with style tags I can make it fit any site I work on. I can validate the css with W3 so I know that the styles should work in most browser. The last site I did 60% of visitors used did not use IE.
Before I put a site live I run it on a sub domain via most common browsers to check that it looks and works fine before it goes live to the public. This checks the ISPs server out to check that the site will work on there servers and allows me to pass the URL around to people to see what they think / spot any mistakes like beta or alpha testing.
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Well, that sounds like a pretty good way of doing it. I remember dropping by Adam's site and being real impressed with the PHP content management system on it. I think it's borked at the moment though :P
For my own site I just use raw HTML and get round the browser compatibility thing by never trying to do anything interesting. I wish I had used style sheets now, but I can't be bothered learning how they work and rewriting it all. I used to wish I had stuff like a blog engine and a forum, but 4hv and myspace music take care of that between them. It would still be nice if I could add stuff to my site as easily as making a post on 4hv, instead of having to break out the text editor and FTP client. Because it's so easy, the stuff I post here tends to be more up to date than my own site.
I forgot to mention that whenever I build sites for friends and suchlike, I use Chris and Noelle's 1121.org web hosting. It helps to pay the running costs of 4hv, and even if it didn't it's still a damn good service.
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Just had a look at your myspace site. I take it that synth in the background is somewhat "non-standard" I've actually had a fair amount of exposure to music, one of my best mates has a studio, with Juno's, roland's, dirty big mackie desk and an old Atari running Qubase. We tried a PC, but the latency sucked in a huge way. Your influences are rather similiar to mine, spent many an hour listening to Aphex Twin. I just love the programmed sound of his drumbeats. and "didgeridoo" is outstanding. Have you heard of Autecha? see if you can get "Gans Graf" on DVD it's an amazing merging of Audio and video.
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Steve Conner wrote ...
Well, that sounds like a pretty good way of doing it. I remember dropping by Adam's site and being real impressed with the PHP content management system on it. I think it's borked at the moment though :P
For my own site I just use raw HTML and get round the browser compatibility thing by never trying to do anything interesting. I wish I had used style sheets now, but I can't be bothered learning how they work and rewriting it all. I used to wish I had stuff like a blog engine and a forum, but 4hv and myspace music take care of that between them. It would still be nice if I could add stuff to my site as easily as making a post on 4hv, instead of having to break out the text editor and FTP client. Because it's so easy, the stuff I post here tends to be more up to date than my own site.
I forgot to mention that whenever I build sites for friends and suchlike, I use Chris and Noelle's 1121.org web hosting. It helps to pay the running costs of 4hv, and even if it didn't it's still a damn good service.
Steve,
My CMS is pritty neat. I have a form hidden away with auth that I can add content and it writes it as a .html file inserts the links into the menu database and away I go one new page added in seconds. Images are a little difficult but what I do is I have a second form and I tell it say I want 10 images and it creates a form with 10 image boxs and I upload the images it returns the link to the imags in one page and I use tabs in mozilla and when I write hte page I use BB code like a forum uses and paste them in. The image upload script writes the BB code as well which is prity neat so its a copy and paste. I am re writing it all to make it a little better and prehaps use adjax.
The CMS I use it my own work I did it to learn more about PHP and the whole site runs suing a common database.
I am moving from 1121 hosting to a UK host called Zool Networks. Good host good service and good price.
If you ever want hand recoding your site Steve to use a CMS I dont mind hacking up my current system into something you could use on your site.
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desmo: It's a Roland JX-8P that I modified to use as a driver for Finn's MIDI controlled DRSSTC project. It survived that and I put it back to normal afterwards. I used to like Autechre and Aphex Twin before they went all IDM, now they just sound like the MP3 file got corrupted or something. I hadn't heard Gantz Graf but Google turned up a site where I could listen to one of the tracks off it. DAMN it was weird
I also found the MIDI timing on PCs a bit loose. The machine I use just now is a 600MHz PIII with an old ISA slot MIDI interface and Win98/Cubase VST. It used to be a 350MHz PII, and I found upgrading the processor made the timing a lot better. I shudder to think what going to an XP-based system would do though. I think my next "up"grade might well be to an Atari for MIDI and Linux for audio. I'd love one of the old Mega STs with the hard disk, but so does everyone else :(
Adam: That might be a cool thing to try. The web hosting that scopeboy.com is with doesn't give me PHP or SQL though, so I'd need to move it.
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