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Need help with an universal drsstc audio modulator

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Reaching
Tue Mar 25 2008, 10:04PM Print
Reaching Registered Member #76 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 10:04AM
Location: Hemer, Germany
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Ok, while this is still a project thread about a modulator project ive started a while ago, i need some help and some suggestions.

this is not a fun project anymore and im getting into trouble everytime i think about it. cause i know that some people make a real secret about their musical modulators i dont think that there will be much attention spent to this thread. but its worth a try

the situation is as followed-

i have the job, to build a circuit that provides a musical modulation of a drsstc via a normal cd player and normal music with ht efull bandwith of the audible range.
the goal for this circuit is to split and cut of the audible frequencys and modulate an entire frequency range within the audible range.
an active band pass filter is used to determine the frequency being modulated. adjustable is resonance and frequency of the aktive band pass control. a pwm modulator is fed with the resulting signal. an envelope detector forms a curve to trigger a square up circuit. the slope detector and the added logic should be able to determine the lenght of a note being played to interrupt the squared up frequency. after that, everything is fed into a normal modulator, forming the on time pulses for the drsstc. the toslink is optional.

so what do you guys think about this rather complicated modulator? For sure, its not possible to modulate the whole range of an audible signal from a cd player, but my attempt is, to modulate a part of the bandwith (maybe 100hz-1khz or a little more) to get melody and maybe vocals into squared up signals for a drsstc.
ive already build and tested some of the modules and while the whole circuit isnt finished yet, it is possible only with the slope detector an active bandpass and a square up circuit, to modulate analog stand alone signals to drsstc duty signals. such as keyboard, speech and many other solo signals. it is possible to extract the baseline of a full audible range signal too.

What do you think? Will or can the finished circuit do what i want, without sounding horrible?

the attachement shows a block circuit of the modulator
1206482655 76 FT0 Modulatorblockbild
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Reaching
Wed Mar 26 2008, 11:40PM
Reaching Registered Member #76 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 10:04AM
Location: Hemer, Germany
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thats exactly what i expected :/
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Wed Mar 26 2008, 11:44PM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
Location: Southern Califorina, USA
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honestly, it seems like you would have a lot more luck either doing the work in some type of DSP, or doing it on a computer and burning tracks that have an output that you can feed strait into the modulator.

It just seems way to complicated to try to make this work.... But if you can pull it off all the more power too ya!
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Steve Conner
Thu Mar 27 2008, 11:35AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Hey Reaching,

Finn gave me permission to publish the circuit I used for the Tesla Guitar stuff. I'm real busy with work just now, but I'll be doing it as soon as I get the chance. It works pretty much the same as Dan's Xenosonic thing, but the circuit is simpler. Mostly because I left all the safety features out! suprised
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Steve Ward
Fri Mar 28 2008, 04:43AM
Steve Ward Registered Member #146 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:21AM
Location: Austin Tx
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Your idea of using a bandpass filter is ok i guess, but musical content varies so much that its always difficult to pick out a vocal melody over a bunch of guitar noise. Its just a really tough problem, and im almost 100% certain no one building tesla coil modulators has figured out a way to do it :P.

I still like my MIDI stuff because its so extremely clean (when it works, haha) and offers more control in my opinion. MIDI didnt seem to be an option for you, so i'll just hold onto my "super secret" code for now :P. Of course, if you read up on the MIDI spec, you will find that im not doing anything special, so my stuff is only "secret" cause i didnt publish my code yet. BTW, if anyone *really* wants to see my code, they should just email me.
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Tom540
Fri Mar 28 2008, 04:48AM
Tom540 Banned on 3/17/2009.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the code if it was programmed in BASIC since that is what I use.
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