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Nucleophobe
Thu May 24 2007, 04:28AM
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Anyone ever tried to cast anything from a thermite reaction?
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sparky
Thu May 24 2007, 04:57AM
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Link2

download the zip file and inside there will be a movie of the CuO + Al exotic thermite targets being shot - notice the brown cloud of copper crystals --- same thing happens when you heat up this material too!!
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uzzors2k
Thu May 24 2007, 03:30PM
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The link doesn't work, could you use a different server or just attach it?
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ragnar
Thu May 24 2007, 10:53PM
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Go here, to the geocities page and follow the link. Geocities doesn't like hotlinkers.
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uzzors2k
Fri May 25 2007, 01:21PM
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Thanks Matt. Some pretty rad videos there. I've never had the courage to do any pyrochemistry myself but it looks so fun. cry
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sparky
Fri May 25 2007, 03:03PM
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This exotic CuO + Al powder thermite is quite insain stuff --- more incendiary than a true Thermite I think...
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Shaun
Mon Jun 18 2007, 04:21AM
Shaun Registered Member #690 Joined: Tue May 08 2007, 03:47AM
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Ive found a good way to make iron oxide in large quantities (probly impure too) is to pack steel wool in a metal tube, force air through it, or better yet oxygen, and light it. It's almost as much fun to watch as the thermite is. It makes a mix of the two oxides, but works very well.
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Swany
Wed Jun 20 2007, 05:25PM
Swany Registered Member #261 Joined: Mon Feb 27 2006, 12:34AM
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Expensive though. Easier to buy buckets of rust at hardware stores as a cement colorant.

I seriously doubt that the CuO/Al 'thermite' pops from a rifle bullet, loosely confined at 1900m/s. Flash powders don't go that fast, techincally they arent high explosives either so you couldnt measure a detonation front, well, LOTS of FP would detonate but for all practical purposes.... ANFO at 2in diameter and low density I would expect to go that fast, not CuO/Al.
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sparky
Thu Jun 21 2007, 12:47AM
sparky Registered Member #530 Joined: Sat Feb 17 2007, 07:56AM
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Actually I've tested CuO/Al thermite and it will ignite from a .22 LR FMJ loosely packed. The speed of initiation is very very fast -- on par with flash -- I put 100 gr inside a cardboard tube and shot it with a .223 FMJ and the tube exploded! The speed of the CuO/Al thermite was calculated on Science madness - website. Some people say confined CuO/Al thermite burns at 1200m/sec while others have reported nearly 1850m/Sec confined... so I'm just stating that this stuff is pretty awesome, can can ignite simply by moderate impact. Red Lead/ Al is also another very energetic mix as well...
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Bored Chemist
Thu Jun 21 2007, 10:46AM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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OK, since I live in Englnd it's no surprise that I don't know much about guns. Having said that I would expect that if I packed a cardboard tube with sand then shot it, the tube would explode. That doesn't mean sand is explosive. Did you hear a second bang from the tube?
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