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Mates
Sun Nov 11 2007, 12:43AM Print
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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Hi guys,
I’m enough of a single transistor and decided to make my first half-bridge. It is based on two BUP314 IGBT and TL494 driver (no feedback). As a current limit is used the circuit by itself involving rolled motor caps (total 150uF). Sparks are nice and almost 50cm long, the transistors heat dissipation is not critical – but I decided for active cooling anyway…

Comments and questions welcomed…


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Shaun
Sun Nov 11 2007, 12:59AM
Shaun Registered Member #690 Joined: Tue May 08 2007, 03:47AM
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So its a DRSSTC now, awesome! Since it is, you need some thicker primary wire, and maybe a bigger resonant cap. It will help a lot with spark length.
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Colin 99
Sun Nov 11 2007, 05:35AM
Colin 99 Registered Member #192 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 03:08AM
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I'd say it's an SSTC. There is no interupter. If you primary cap was at resonance you'd blow a fuse or circuit breaker. Also you DC cap to supply power to your IGBT's is was too small.

Shaun
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Mates
Sun Nov 11 2007, 09:32AM
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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Colin 99 wrote ...

I'd say it's an SSTC. There is no interupter. If you primary cap was at resonance you'd blow a fuse or circuit breaker. Also you DC cap to supply power to your IGBT's is was too small.

Shaun

This circuit does not need an interrupter and neither a fuse because it is self limiting in the amount of power delivered to the transistors.(you can short-circuit the + and - and nothing happens, you would only hear gentle 50Hz noise). I do not want to argue whether it is DRSSTC or just SSTC – I do not exactly now how the DR is defined. However my coil has resonant cap with the primary which is loaded by transistors driven also in resonanace freq. thus I call double resonant…
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Electroholic
Sun Nov 11 2007, 08:11PM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
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I really don't see how it is self limiting other than that the diodes will blow when you short it, or drive it at resonance.
please explain
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teslaguy
Sun Nov 11 2007, 08:28PM
teslaguy Registered Member #617 Joined: Fri Mar 30 2007, 07:29PM
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i think im going to try to make this on 110v with some old h324ad 40n60a 4d igbt's...ill tell you how that pans out.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sun Nov 11 2007, 09:19PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Electroholic wrote ...

I really don't see how it is self limiting other than that the diodes will blow when you short it, or drive it at resonance.
please explain
From what I can see it's a sort of halfwave doubler, so the short-circuit current is defined by the size of the cap.

However DRSSTC's can not be run in CW even with current/limited supply, because you would get nearly no output from the coil.

BTW the half bridge is begging for some decoupling caps 8-o
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Ken M.
Sun Nov 11 2007, 10:05PM
Ken M. Registered Member #618 Joined: Sat Mar 31 2007, 04:15AM
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Also if I'm not mistaken a DRSSTC is defined as having two (2) feedback circuits to allow the primary to resonate causing more power to be applied to the secondary which would also resonate but it has to resonate to work anyways. As far As I can tell its just a SSTC with a voltage doubler and IGBT's instead of Fets.
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Coronafix
Mon Nov 12 2007, 05:12AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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No, a DRSSTC has two resonant circuits. ie an inductor and capacitance in the tank circuit.
A SSTC just drives the the primary at the resonant frequency, whereas a DRSSTC has the tank
oscillating at a frequency and the IGBTs acting as the spark gap and firing at a presettable BPS.
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Ken M.
Mon Nov 12 2007, 01:29PM
Ken M. Registered Member #618 Joined: Sat Mar 31 2007, 04:15AM
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mistrust I hate trying to explain or understand the differences between DR and regular SSTCs, I usually get them wrong, eitehr way someone with more knowledge explained it. (And I tryed!)
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