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Nik
Sun Oct 07 2007, 06:42PM Print
Nik Registered Member #53 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:31AM
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 638
A few months back I built an AM crystal radio from garbage I had laying around the house just to see if it could be done. At the time I didn't have a way to record what I heard or get it to SpecLab but now I do so I figured I would do a write up.

I started with the empty spool from some 20awg wire I used in a tesla coil. I wound a coil of 30awg on to the spool and varnished the windings. Once they were dry I sanded 2 strips on either side of the coil 1 to adjust the ground point on the coil (changing its apparent length) the other to tune the radio. The diode is a "foxhole radio" style detector. It is a short length of pencil graphite on the end of a paper clip pressed against some rust on a razor blade.

The whole setup is very sensitive to bumps but still can deliver a somewhat clear signal. I have attached a clip recorded in SpecLab (unfilterd) as well as a photo of the radio and a screen shot from SpecLab.

If any one else has made a similar setup please share. I find the more primitive radios to be the most interesting because they use so little to get the job done.
]1191782546_53_FT0_homeamradio2.wav[/file]
1191782546 53 FT0 Radio

1191782546 53 FT0 Capt00
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Sulaiman
Sun Oct 07 2007, 09:18PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3140
For crystal radios I really reccommend these three sites
Link2 and Link2 and Link2

If you find some other good ones post them here?
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thermite
Sat Feb 23 2008, 03:59AM
thermite Banned on 02/27/2008
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The closeup picture of the heart is unfortunately missing. ie the rectifying contact and also the tuner contacts. would like to see them.

Nik wrote ...

A few months back I built an AM crystal radio from garbage I had laying around the house just to see if it could be done. At the time I didn't have a way to record what I heard or get it to SpecLab but now I do so I figured I would do a write up.

I started with the empty spool from some 20awg wire I used in a tesla coil. I wound a coil of 30awg on to the spool and varnished the windings. Once they were dry I sanded 2 strips on either side of the coil 1 to adjust the ground point on the coil (changing its apparent length) the other to tune the radio. The diode is a "foxhole radio" style detector. It is a short length of pencil graphite on the end of a paper clip pressed against some rust on a razor blade.

The whole setup is very sensitive to bumps but still can deliver a somewhat clear signal. I have attached a clip recorded in SpecLab (unfilterd) as well as a photo of the radio and a screen shot from SpecLab.

If any one else has made a similar setup please share. I find the more primitive radios to be the most interesting because they use so little to get the job done.

1191782546 53 FT0 Radio

1191782546 53 FT0 Capt00

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Weston
Sat Feb 23 2008, 06:20AM
Weston Registered Member #1316 Joined: Thu Feb 14 2008, 03:35AM
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 365
I have a book on this. rusty rasor blades can be used a diodes. where can you get a germanium diode?
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Sat Feb 23 2008, 11:19PM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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Posts: 1735
Neat Radio!

Ge diodes are 1N34A or NTE 109. NTE is a bit pricey, you might want a look at Jameco, Mouser, Newark (pricey) or DigiKey, and search for 1N34A.
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Sulaiman
Sun Feb 24 2008, 11:05AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3140
Try small schottky diodes like BAT62-03W - very good detectors I think.
(UK RS components - don't know your locally available types)
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Weston
Tue Feb 26 2008, 06:05PM
Weston Registered Member #1316 Joined: Thu Feb 14 2008, 03:35AM
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 365
Has any one tryed using silicon carbide? i have heard it works with hard pressure.
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Dave Marshall
Tue Feb 26 2008, 06:36PM
Dave Marshall Registered Member #16 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 02:22PM
Location: New Wilmington, PA
Posts: 554
Iron Pyrite (fool's gold) can be used in place of the crystal as well. The benefit of that stuff is its widely available at any little science shop or toy store. I have heard its a bit more finicky than some other options though.

Dave
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Proud Mary
Tue Feb 26 2008, 07:48PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
Posts: 4992
A guy here has built a broadcast band negative resistance oscillator using iron pyrites:

Link2

I believe that a small piece of galena - the sulphide ore of lead - was one of the most popular semiconductors in the crystal-and-cat's whisker days of early radio.

Other Ge diodes besides 1N34A that are usually inexpensive on ebay are OA47, OA90 and OA91. Last year I bought ten 1N34A on ebay for £2 - about US$4, and the other common germanium types are are the same order of price.

Remember that even with a basic crystal set you can easily put a bit of DC bias on your diode from a battery, to make it even more sensitive. Schottky diodes perform better than germanium if bias is used, but not generally so well without it. At a pinch, even red LEDs can be made to work OK in a crystal set if you put a bit of bias on em !
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Weston
Tue Feb 26 2008, 08:08PM
Weston Registered Member #1316 Joined: Thu Feb 14 2008, 03:35AM
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 365
Harry wrote ...

A guy here has built a broadcast band negative resistance oscillator using iron pyrites:

Link2
I believe that a small piece of -galena the sulphide ore of lead - was one of the most popular semiconductors in the crystal-and-cat's whisker days of early radio.

Other Ge diodes besides 1N34A that are usually inexpensive on ebay are OA47, OA90 and OA91. Last year I bought ten 1N34A on ebay for £2 - about US$4, and the other common germanium types are are the same order of price.

Remember that even with a basic crystal set you can easily put a bit of DC bias on your diode from a battery, to make it even more sensitive. Schottky diodes perform better than germanium if bias is used, but not generally so well without it. At a pinch, even red LEDs can be made to work OK in a crystal set if you put a bit of bias on em !
You are right about the use of galena. I have a whole book about makeing your own crystal radios.
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