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Steve's Mini SSTC, again.

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Munkey
Fri Sept 28 2007, 02:39PM
Munkey Registered Member #588 Joined: Sat Mar 17 2007, 11:06AM
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Steve Conner wrote ...

I guess you hadn't RTFDS
Excuse my stupidity but what is RTFDS?

Yes I know the max working voltage is 15. I stuck a 5V reg in for the ucc and the 555. the coil was powered on 32V

Do any of you guys know how to make a indestructible FET driver like the ucc?
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Zum Beispiel
Fri Sept 28 2007, 02:59PM
Zum Beispiel Registered Member #514 Joined: Sun Feb 11 2007, 12:27AM
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Bacon wrote ...

Excuse my stupidity but what is RTFDS?
I believe it's a variation of RTFM.

Bacon wrote ...

Yes I know the max working voltage is 15. I stuck a 5V reg in for the ucc and the 555. the coil was powered on 32V
If you supply the UCCs with only 5V the voltage you are driving your FETs with will also be only 5V. This way they are in their linear region, causing massive dissipation in the FETs and killing them (unless they are "logic-level" FETs, that are fully turned on at around 5V).

Bacon wrote ...

Do any of you guys know how to make a indestructible FET driver like the ucc?
There are drivers made from discrete components floating around the net. These are pretty indestructible and powerfull, but serious overkill for this job. Besides, UCCs are pretty much bomb-proof, as long as you give them the right supply voltage, use generous amounts of decoupling and make sure your GDT is working properly (not saturating, proper material, DC-blocking etc).
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Munkey
Fri Sept 28 2007, 03:45PM
Munkey Registered Member #588 Joined: Sat Mar 17 2007, 11:06AM
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Well the FET was fine, it was the ucc that decided to blow its top (literally) This time I did not overvolt it and it still died, it was only connected to a small BUK455 FET, this was my attempt at this Link2 circuit. The reason I did not power it on 12V is because when I did the oscillation stopped and the ucc got HOT.

I am going to try to build (and fail) an about 10 amp ucc equivalent...

for the GDT I used a ring of unknown material pulled out of a computer PSU.

I look like a real idiot saying what does RTFM mean. Jumping to concludtions by any chance?
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Fri Sept 28 2007, 04:01PM
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You didn't use the yellow powdered iron core out of the supply, did you?

You need ferrite (grey) cores.
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Munkey
Fri Sept 28 2007, 05:35PM
Munkey Registered Member #588 Joined: Sat Mar 17 2007, 11:06AM
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... wrote ...

You didn't use the yellow powdered iron core out of the supply, did you?
Yep it is a yellow one. Why is it bad to use them?

Ugh, now I have got to buy one,

Screw that, I am going try to make this Link2 one, 5" sparks! Thats WAY enough to satisfy me. I would be over the moon if that works (I highly doubt that though) What is the value of the tank cap (C6) across the FET and YES I HAVE RTFM!
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Marko
Fri Sept 28 2007, 06:51PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Why is it bad to use them?

Because of way too low permeability and massive magnetizing current which blows the UCC's.
I't's material #26 powdered iron, you need ferrite, 77 or similar.

Also check if you didn't blow the regulator and it feeds full supply voltage to UCC. Be careful around those things..

Marko
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Munkey
Fri Sept 28 2007, 07:09PM
Munkey Registered Member #588 Joined: Sat Mar 17 2007, 11:06AM
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Marko wrote ...

Because of way too low permeability and massive magnetizing current
I know next to noting about transformers and magnetics, but do you mean the magnetic field is not "absorbed"?

Here is my attempt at making a tougher equivalent to the UCC: Link2 Which parts are wrong/will it not work?
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Steve Conner
Sat Sept 29 2007, 07:50PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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BTW, it stands for Read The F***ing Data Sheet suprised

The only times I have ever blown UCCs, were when the regulator failed and hit them with 30V, or if the magnetizing current (that Marko mentioned) got too high and made them latch up.
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