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Did my coil kill my air conditioning?

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GimpyJoe
Tue Aug 14 2007, 12:52PM Print
GimpyJoe Registered Member #316 Joined: Mon Mar 13 2006, 01:30PM
Location: Marietta, GA
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Last night I was running my 4" coil on the back porch. I was using 12kv at 90ma and getting about three foot streamers.

Here's the problem: I'm noticing now that the air conditioner won't turn on in my house. The thermostat is about twenty feet from where the coil was running. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it, but the compressor won't turn on. I checked the breaker for the compressor but everything was fine. Is it possible that my coil fried whatever circuit is supposed to turn on the compressor?
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Tue Aug 14 2007, 03:45PM
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Was it one of the mercury tilt switch thermostats, or the new digital ones? I would pull if off the wall and jump the wires to turn on the compressor (you are on your own to figure out what they are...) as a sanity check...
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GimpyJoe
Tue Aug 14 2007, 05:31PM
GimpyJoe Registered Member #316 Joined: Mon Mar 13 2006, 01:30PM
Location: Marietta, GA
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It was a new digital thermostat. I'm really REALLY hoping it wasn't the coil but this isn't the first time I've had problems with RF screwing up home electronics. We had to reset our home alarm system because of RF noise.
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sparky
Tue Aug 14 2007, 10:16PM
sparky Registered Member #530 Joined: Sat Feb 17 2007, 07:56AM
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Yep, more than likely if you ran a house ground to your tesla coil OR ran the coil close to the digital circuit you can bet you bottom dollar something got messed up. I remember a few year back setting off fire alarms due to RF seeping back into the mains. I used an line filter block that supresses RF noise and all my problems went away after that!

A $35 USD investment ONLY
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GimpyJoe
Wed Aug 15 2007, 02:15AM
GimpyJoe Registered Member #316 Joined: Mon Mar 13 2006, 01:30PM
Location: Marietta, GA
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I'm not using house ground for RF ground, but my ground isn't great. The porch is on the second story, so my ground runs from one of the porch's supports (a 4" steel pipe sunk into the ground) and I also have a 12"x24" piece of sheet metal attached to ground next to the coil as a counterpoise.

I also use a line filter on my coil but it's a cheap surplus one. What kind do you use?
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GreySoul
Wed Aug 15 2007, 04:12AM
GreySoul Registered Member #546 Joined: Fri Feb 23 2007, 11:43PM
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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I wouldn't use any steel attached to the building for an RF ground.

I'm having trouble right now with my copper clad stake conducting to the concrete 1" away from it.... I was thinking the moist ground under the driveway would be a better ground... but it seeps into the house ground through the driveway, into the garage, into the water pipes, and into the panel...I blew up my TV tonight with just the spark gap running on it (I get one bright white horizontal line dead through the center... blew out a coil I guess?)... *sigh*

I'll trade you a new AC thermostat for a new 30" TV...


Good luck on the grounding problem. FWIW Home Repot sells Copper clad grounding rods and clamps... drive it to moist soil as far from your house ground as possible. Don't put it under the driveay like I did ... bad mojo.

-Doug



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Steve Conner
Wed Aug 15 2007, 10:26AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Funky, did you try resetting the thermostat? It might have got scrambled. There could be a reset button to press, or you might have to disconnect power from it and take out a backup battery inside the thing, or something.
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Mwahahaha
Thu Aug 16 2007, 11:48PM
Mwahahaha Registered Member #955 Joined: Wed Aug 15 2007, 04:28AM
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If an RFI filter isn't working try running it inside a Faraday cage.
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GimpyJoe
Fri Aug 17 2007, 03:01PM
GimpyJoe Registered Member #316 Joined: Mon Mar 13 2006, 01:30PM
Location: Marietta, GA
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It turns out the capacitor on the compressor died. It cost us a couple hundred bucks so I'm assuming it's a big power factor correction cap.
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GreySoul
Fri Aug 17 2007, 03:31PM
GreySoul Registered Member #546 Joined: Fri Feb 23 2007, 11:43PM
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 239
.... a couple HUNDRED bucks? I'd have gone for a second estimate....

wow.

That's a lot of coin for a motor start cap.

People are just taking advantage of the hot summer and price gouging on repairs.... that's redonkulous.

Glad you're cool now tho, that's a hard one to value :)

-Doug
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