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Mad_Micky
Tue Jul 31 2007, 12:57PM Print
Mad_Micky Registered Member #879 Joined: Thu Jul 05 2007, 01:40AM
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Hey guys, I was just wondering if anyone could help me out with a problem I'm having with my new 8 inch Tesla Coil.

Performance is good at 3.5kVA but I get some quite nasty racing sparks near the bottom of the secondary winding. On closer inspection these sparks have caused cracks in the polyurethane coating. I just gave the coil another coat of varnish to repair the damage but I suspect this won't fix the problem. I read that these sparks can be caused by overcoupling or by an overly large topload. The coupling factor with the bottom turn of the secondary level with the primary is 0.147, according to JavaTC. I suspect my topload is too large, perhaps removing the sphere and retuning would help? Or should I try raising the secondary to reduce the coupling?

Attached are some photos of my setup and a text file of JavaTC outputs.

Thanks in advance for any advice.


1185885154 879 FT0 Imgp0903

1185885154 879 FT0 Imgp0904

1185885154 879 FT0 Imgp0906

]1185885154_879_FT0_tesla_simulation.txt[/file]
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Dago
Tue Jul 31 2007, 01:16PM
Dago Registered Member #538 Joined: Sun Feb 18 2007, 08:33PM
Location: Finland
Posts: 181
Raise the secondary and get a bigger toroid.
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sparky
Tue Jul 31 2007, 05:17PM
sparky Registered Member #530 Joined: Sat Feb 17 2007, 07:56AM
Location: Victoria BC, Canada
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Racing spark problem can be solved by raising the secondary for sure. I bet that is your problem. I remember ramming 4 kVA into my 4" TC system 2 years ago and I got plenty of racing sparks. Once I raised the secondary it changed the coupling coefficent and the racing sparks went away - I did also use a smaller topload and that changed the coils performance slightly. But I highly doubt that that your topload is too big - it looks just about right.
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Sulaiman
Tue Jul 31 2007, 08:39PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
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I think it's more to do with close coupling to the bottom turns, not the overall coupling.

Raising the secondary will reduce both overall coupling and (in this case) more importantly, coupling to the bottom turns.

If possible a primary with a larger inside diameter may cure the problem and maintain good overall coupling.

P.S. I don't think your topload is too big.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Wed Aug 01 2007, 12:42AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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Like Sulaman said, you're just overcoupled.

I was playing with a parabolic primary on my latest coil setup that had so much coupling on my 4" coil that it caused 5" racing arcs midway up the coil... which was kinda funny.

Try lowering your coupling to .1 and see how that goes.
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