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Tenicus
Fri Jun 29 2007, 02:19PM Print
Tenicus Registered Member #864 Joined: Tue Jun 26 2007, 07:26PM
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Im building a MMC using 942C20P15K-F capacitors. The transformer is an NST rated at 10.5 kv, 30 ma.
I needed a total capacitance of around .0075 uF. Since each cap is .15 uF, twenty of them would get me that amount.

Is it OK to have only one string?
Also, do you divide the NST voltage by the capacitor's DC voltage or AC voltage when finding the correct # of caps?
Thanks
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GreySoul
Fri Jun 29 2007, 04:53PM
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Link2
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J. Aaron Holmes
Fri Jun 29 2007, 06:30PM
J. Aaron Holmes Registered Member #477 Joined: Tue Jun 20 2006, 11:51PM
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GreySoul wrote ...

Link2


Right. Assuming you're using a static gap, I'd go with the "one string of 15" as for the 12/30 NST "Static Gap LTR" value. 7.5nF is a little too small. The difference between the LTR for a 10/23 and 12/30 is only one cap, according to this chart, so I'd pick the higher of the two. You're actually somewhere in the middle.

Cheers,
Aaron, N7OE
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Sulaiman
Fri Jun 29 2007, 07:53PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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A string of 15 sounds ideal; (10nF 30kV)

You could consider a string of 15 that would allow you to test at 14 or 13 or even 10 in series,
each change will of course require re-tuning the primary, (and possibly the spark gap)
you may find that less than 15 is better
you've plenty of voltage margin to play with (up to full dc rating of capacitor at least)
If things get too warm or go 'POP' then you overdid it a bit wink

Increasing capacitance (once larger than resonant) actually reduces voltage stress on the NST
but I think you should maintain aim for one spark per 50/60 Hz half-cycle

For the topload you could consider this kind of approach Link2
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Tenicus
Fri Jun 29 2007, 08:52PM
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Beautiful.
Thank you 3 very much.
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ArcLight
Fri Jun 29 2007, 09:26PM
ArcLight Registered Member #341 Joined: Thu Mar 23 2006, 07:41PM
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My little 3.5” coil is powered by a 15Kv, 60ma NST. Originally, I used one string of ten CD-942 .15uF caps. However, I kept destroying caps (one at a time, not the whole bank at once) after only a few minutes of run time. So I decided instead to use two strings of 19 caps. No more blown caps even after several nights of hard running. So I believe that a single string will work fine at your power level.

Concerning your question about using the AC or DC rating on the cap. I have read every reference that I can find about MMCs on this website and all of the other websites that I could find. It seems that most people use the DC rating whether running DC or not when using the CD caps. However, as my experience above demonstrates even using a tight static gap and a safety gap something very bad was happening inside those caps.

I don't understand where you got the .0075uF number from, my calculations yielded a result of .012uF so one string of 12 or 13 would be where I would start.

Regards, ArcLight
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Tenicus
Fri Jun 29 2007, 09:53PM
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I used the equation found at Link2
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sparky
Sat Jun 30 2007, 02:50AM
sparky Registered Member #530 Joined: Sat Feb 17 2007, 07:56AM
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I use 28 caps (at 1600VDC, 0.68uF each) by 4 sets in parallel for my capacitor bank.

These are awesome caps!! Never had one blow!
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