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Jim
Tue Feb 28 2006, 08:48PM Print
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I attempted the mewrcury and aluminum amalgam with a soda can and some mercury from a thermometer, however, it did absolutely nothing.
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craigsarea
Tue Feb 28 2006, 10:17PM
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Yeah I've tried it before and it's quite hard to get started:

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I think the aluminium oxide layer gets in the way. In the end I used gallium to break it down. You could probably use HCl instead, which is something I've been meaning to try for a while now.
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LowCurrentHV
Wed Mar 01 2006, 01:53AM
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Also try using a better source for the aluminum, a lot of cans are alloys and have layers of anodizing and plastics covering the actual aluminum. A good bet would be to use an aluminum bar from Home Depot, it's like $3.
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IamSmooth
Thu Mar 02 2006, 01:26AM
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what reaction are you all talking about? What is it suppose to do?
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Omicron
Thu Mar 02 2006, 02:13AM
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You have to use mercuric chloride, not metal the mercuric chloride is the activator and the reactivity of Al does the rest.
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ragnar
Thu Mar 02 2006, 05:41AM
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Omicron, mercuric chloride is not to be toyed with.

I would think Jim is talking about the mercury + aluminium and amalgamation.
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Omicron
Thu Mar 02 2006, 09:37PM
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Okay I thought he was talking about the rapid oxidation of Al not alnagamation for that try silver it’s a lot easier.
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Jim
Mon Mar 06 2006, 12:17AM
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I scraped the oxide layer off the Al and then applied to the liquid Hg and it still did nothing, even after sitting for a week.
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Dr. Shark
Mon Mar 06 2006, 10:01AM
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I really think your best bet is to use Gallium. If you try to scratch the oxide layer is will reform faster than you can scratch.
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govtcontact
Fri Mar 24 2006, 02:51PM
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A simple source for Al is Al foil. Cut or tare into pices ~ .5 inch X .5 inch. Place into a container and add a solution of NaOH (20% NaOH solution). Allow the sollution to remove the oxide for about a minute or so. Drain the solution and rinse several times with fresh DISTILLED h2o.

Next, carry on with the rest of the procedure.
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