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Yongsoo
Fri May 25 2007, 04:49AM Print
Yongsoo Registered Member #804 Joined: Fri May 25 2007, 04:42AM
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Hi, I'm trying to make a small tesla coil for my science project. I'd like to make something with at least 10 inch sparks but stay under my budget of about $100. I'm looking at buying a 6kv 21ma neon power supply with an AC input for $40. What are like they key parts I need and could I get recommendations on where to get them. I'd like to know if what I have planned is plausable. Also, the project is due in ~10 days so I have to work quickly. I don't understand what kind of capacitors and how many coils are needed for it to function.
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Bjørn
Fri May 25 2007, 06:00AM
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Reading this Link2 should help you decide if the project is sensible or not.
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Adrian
Fri May 25 2007, 09:40AM
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I dont think you'll make it on that budget, after buying the NST the $60 probably wont get you far, unless you have stacks of electronics stuff around the place you could get components out of. If you have to start from 'scratch' I'd say you wont have a chance of making it with <$100.
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Coronafix
Fri May 25 2007, 10:19AM
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I think you could make it for a hundred bucks, but 10 days may
not be realistic, assuming you have other things to do in that time
ie. school, homework.
Parts can be taken from scrap.
Wire for secondary from microwave fan motor, primary coil from an
old fridge, caps from...mmm...lots of old monitors or TVs? Or of course
there are always salt water bottle caps.
Toroid can be a baby's toy wrapped in foil, or a couple of bowls.
A junk coil is easy enough, it's the time spent to make it then tune it
that is lacking.
How about making a fly back driver, or you could just get the
transformer and make a Jacobs ladder.
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Yongsoo
Fri May 25 2007, 02:36PM
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How important is tuning? Do you have to tune it for it to work at all or to maximize spark length and such? I was planning on obtaining parts through out the week and spending the entire weekend putting it together. How many old computer monitors would I have to break into to have enough capacitors with my transformer?
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Coronafix
Fri May 25 2007, 02:50PM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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Yongsoo wrote ...

How many old computer monitors would I have to break into to have enough capacitors with my transformer?

Probably a lot, but that all depends on your transformer. wink
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Dr. Drone
Fri May 25 2007, 04:15PM
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Cain
Fri May 25 2007, 04:19PM
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yeah my first coil was a junk coil and it was done in almost less than 10 days after i got my NST (6kv 30mA) but i didn't get 10 inch sparks :P

try degauss coils from TVs for the secondary wire... thats what i used for my first coil (and am still using it as my RF chokes)
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GreySoul
Fri May 25 2007, 05:28PM
GreySoul Registered Member #546 Joined: Fri Feb 23 2007, 11:43PM
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6KV / 21ma tranny? Sounds like a new-fangled high frequency unit.... does it weight more than 5 pounds?

See this thread: Link2 for an explaination of why the cheapy modern (non-iron core) transformers don't work for a tesla coil.

10 days to build a coil... with experiance... possibly.

tuning will get you a bigger spark, but a well made coil should perform somewhat given proper design and construction from "first light"

For the budget, and for the learning experiance and science fair nature of the coil, I would HIGHLY suggest a salt water bottle capacitor.

10"....that would be hard from 6kv in on a regular SSG coil.


Still, good luck with it. Let us know how it goes.

-Doug
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Yongsoo
Fri May 25 2007, 06:05PM
Yongsoo Registered Member #804 Joined: Fri May 25 2007, 04:42AM
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Thanks for the replies guys. You were right, the transformer I planned on buying won't work for my tesla coil. Where would I get a small iron core transformer?
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