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Selfwound 50hz HV transformer

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Reaching
Sun Feb 26 2006, 12:06AM Print
Reaching Registered Member #76 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 10:04AM
Location: Hemer, Germany
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hi,

Since im interested in high voltage, i wanted to build my own high voltage transformer, but never got the right material to do it.
a few weeks ago i came across a relatively big EI130b Core. i had no use for it cause it was a industrial 400volt transformer. it was lying around for about two weeks before i decided to unwind it and build my hv transformer.

the secondary coil is wound out of 0,3mm wire, every 500 turns i insulated it with a sheet of paper and varnish. every 1000 turns a layer of transformer isolation foil (PP)
the whole secondary has around 11000 Turns. on 230Volt input i have a secondary voltage of around 6,5kV.
one side of the secondary is connected to the core like a mot.

heres a small video at 100volt input power
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as you can see, the arc is very very powerful, around 500mA or more. the whole thing only get slightly warm. at 230volt input i need a ballast to prevent the breaker from tripping while drawing an arc.
tommorow i´ll post a few pics of the building progress, insulation etc.i never thought that its so easy to insulate such a high voltage cheesey
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Sun Feb 26 2006, 01:33AM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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It is not really that hard to insulate high voltages at low frequencies, the real problems occur at high frequencies where you run into problems...

Looks good in any case, what do you plan to do with it?
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Omicron
Sun Feb 26 2006, 02:30AM
Omicron Registered Member #131 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 09:25PM
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Homemade transformers are high current, I dont advise useing them.
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iRET
Sun Feb 26 2006, 05:26PM
iRET Registered Member #258 Joined: Sun Feb 26 2006, 03:58PM
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Reaching:
I'm looking forward to see your building progress pics.
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Reaching
Sun Feb 26 2006, 05:33PM
Reaching Registered Member #76 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 10:04AM
Location: Hemer, Germany
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iRET wrote ...

Reaching:
I'm looking forward to see your building progress pics.

oh yeah, here are a few pics

heres a pic of the original transformer.
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heres a pic of the open core

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unwound

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former divided in two parts

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started to wind the secondary
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paper insulation coated with varnish

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finished transformer

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and heres a video of the unballasted transformer in action at 200volt input drawing around 20A

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pic of a big arc at 230volt input

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Marko
Sun Feb 26 2006, 05:51PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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20A dead ; core is obivously saturated heavily, it is rather too small for 4000 wats and this is a good way to blow your transformer apart.
Its obivously not for 220V any more, in film very loud buzzing can be heard, you must find some edge where core saturates and run on that voltage otherwise huge amount of power will turn into heat and melt your primary...
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Omicron
Sun Feb 26 2006, 07:11PM
Omicron Registered Member #131 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 09:25PM
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Are you trying to kill your self! start with a flyback or something!
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Self Defenestrate
Sun Feb 26 2006, 07:20PM
Self Defenestrate Registered Member #87 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 01:36PM
Location: San Jose
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Woah, calm down there Omicron, Reachings knows what he's doing. Check out the old board. Anyhoo, hows about a pic of the running device for those of us who aren't so lucky with AVI's?

(EDIT: Totally missed that pic. Incredible results..)
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EDY19
Sun Feb 26 2006, 07:30PM
EDY19 Registered Member #105 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:54PM
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There is a picture right under the AVI file
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skmetal7
Sun Feb 26 2006, 07:38PM
skmetal7 Registered Member #101 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:12PM
Location: Wisconsin
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nice!

how can you figure out how many turns to wind for the primary? i have a huge core laying around that was from a big battery charger. it must have been from the 60's or something, since the insulation on the wires is falling off. the primary was wound around the secondary, it was, i think 10 AWG and the secondary is 6 AWG. the wire is pretty burnt so i removed it. now i would like to rewind it for 120v input (with finer gauge wire like 12 or 14) and 50 volt out , and taps every 5 volts. the core is 5-3/4" x 6"
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