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DRSSTC 2 SIMULATION PROBLEMS

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gentoo_daemon
Thu Mar 01 2007, 01:44AM
gentoo_daemon Registered Member #512 Joined: Sat Feb 10 2007, 05:42PM
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thanks Bennem

What would be the advantages of using feedback from the primary? Secondary feedback can be substituted for this.

And for over current detection in the primary, I'm thinking about using these high current shunts

Link2

It's basically a real rugged, linear resistor so the current can be measured as a proportion of the voltage across it. Let me know what you guys think.

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Bennem
Thu Mar 01 2007, 06:31AM
Bennem Registered Member #154 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:28PM
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Hi Gentoo,

Allthough secondary feedback works, the current in the
secondary coil is not completely represenative of the
current in the primary coil.
To acheive zero current switching, which is what we want,
the best method feedback for a DRSSTC presently
is primary feedback. IMO.
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Steve Ward
Thu Mar 01 2007, 08:00PM
Steve Ward Registered Member #146 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:21AM
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Firstly, let me say that my design is particularly that way for a reason (ive blown up enough silicon figuring it out, so everyone else shouldnt have to).

The picture you linked was of the secondary feedback, and is thusly out of date. Do not use secondary feedback! As Ben said, primary feedback ensures zero current switching (aside from switching delays) and is much more robust.

On the first 1:33 turn CT, you dont need to "wind" a primary, just slip the ferrite toroid with 33 turns on it, around the primary conductor, from the output of the bridge. Do not put the CT on the node connecting the L and the C as the voltage rings up to many kV at this node!

Current shunts: why would you want to use a shunt??? This would require your controller/driver board be connected to the H-bridge directly. This is why CTs exist!!! Not to mention that a CT will *undoubtedly* give a cleaner signal of the current through the primary.
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Dr. Drone
Thu Mar 01 2007, 10:38PM
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ragnar
Fri Mar 02 2007, 12:51AM
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Chris, those epoxy-dipped CTs are really sexy! I remember when you posted the pics of them earlier. Tell me, is the field well constrained to within the ferrite core? If you put them side by side, do the cascaded CTs get confused?

Matt
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Steve Ward
Fri Mar 02 2007, 06:42AM
Steve Ward Registered Member #146 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:21AM
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BP, given that the permeability of the core is 1000-10,000 times that of air, what would you conclude ?


(hint: yes, you can bunch up CTs very close to eachother with no problems).
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gentoo_daemon
Fri Mar 02 2007, 02:35PM
gentoo_daemon Registered Member #512 Joined: Sat Feb 10 2007, 05:42PM
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Christopher_R,
Those pictures really hammered the idea in. Thank you
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