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half vs. full wave voltage doublers.

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The Zander
Sat Dec 30 2006, 02:59AM Print
The Zander Registered Member #295 Joined: Tue Mar 07 2006, 06:59PM
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It is my understanding that both full and half wave voltage doublers output the same power (unlike, full and half wave rectifiers) the only difference being the arrangment of the components (both use 2X diodes, 2X capacitors) and the output frequency.

if the above assumption is correct then say i wanted to build a SGTC, and i had 2 MOTs as my power supply, and a 30nF tank cap. if i was to use a halfwave doubler my tank capacitor would be ~3X too small, and thus my TC ineffiecient, but if i used a fullwave doubler my tank capacitor would be much closer to optimum, and therefore my TC much more efficient.

are the above assumptions correct? and do the components in a full wave doubler need to be rated @ the input voltage, or 2X the input voltage (assuming i don't derated them at all)

THanx:
TheZander
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Steve Conner
Sat Dec 30 2006, 06:44PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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What you're asking about, I guess, is the difference between Greinacher and Villard doublers. It's explained here: Link2

Note all of these circuits output filtered DC, so you should be using a resonant charging inductor, de-Qing diode, and rotary spark gap. There are variants of the circuit that get away without this, by supplying pulsating unfiltered DC that allows the spark gap to quench. They are all basically Villard doublers with the final filter cap replaced by the tank cap. Greg Hunter was the expert on these, but I can't find his site any more.

The HV supply in my Tesla-2 was two Villard doublers, one giving a positive output and the other giving a negative output, ran off the same transformer.
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vasil
Sat Dec 30 2006, 08:22PM
vasil Registered Member #229 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 07:33PM
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Greg Hunter' site:

http://hot-streamer.com/greg/
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