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Plasma
Wed Dec 04 2019, 05:55PM
Plasma Registered Member #61406 Joined: Thu Jan 05 2017, 11:31PM
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Just read that ever Watt for a resistor is good for 1kV.
V = sqrt(P *R).
I think it might be a ball park rather than dead fixed.
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Patrick
Wed Dec 04 2019, 10:06PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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power and a functional voltage limit are different... you can hit the voltage limit long before or after the watt limit would indicate by calculation. right ?
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2Spoons
Thu Dec 05 2019, 12:47AM
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Voltage rating has almost nothing to do with power, and everything to do with construction. A long skinny resistor will handle more volts than a short fat one rated at the same power. Even choice of construction materials will affect voltage handling.
Short answer: for voltage handling physical size is a better indicator than power rating .
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Plasma
Thu Dec 05 2019, 01:09AM
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Just saying what I read

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2Spoons
Thu Dec 05 2019, 01:20AM
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Thats just ohm's law, and not really relevant to the voltage rating of a resistor except at DC. Pulse handling is a different beast. Its entirely possible to have a 1Meg resistor that will handle a 15kV pulse, but only have a power rating of a watt (which would imply a limit of 1000V ).
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klugesmith
Thu Dec 05 2019, 09:44PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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Plasma, the book page you cited might be confusing to noobs.

Right after the introduction of voltage rating, it mentions V = sqrt (P * R). Could be more clear immediately that putting P-max into that formula does not give you V-max, which is an independent limit in the data sheet.
Fortunately, it then mentions critical resistance value.
At foot of the page, it's beginning to say that for resistors whose R value is above critical, the V-max rule gets you before the P-max rule.
( Both rules apply to steady state operation, and have exceptions for pulses and small duty cycles. )

To beat more on the dead horse, and certainly not to say anything MrMilStar doesn't know:

Consider a series of 1/4 watt 200 volt resistors.
The first part does not mean all R values can dissipate 1/4 W, it means stay below 1/4 W to avoid overheating.
The second part does not mean all R values can withstand 200 V, it means stay below 200 V to avoid overvolting.

I agree with all that 2Spoons has said about material and construction details, which underlie the P and V ratings.
Some materials are more tolerant than others of high temperature.
Some resistive materials and dielectrics are more tolerant than others of high electric field strength, even at high temperature.
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Patrick
Fri Dec 06 2019, 07:24PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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2Spoons wrote ...

... Even choice of construction materials will affect voltage handling...
which is why we almost always see ruthenium film instead of carbon for HV.
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