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3 wire ipod battery flex connector.

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Patrick
Wed Nov 20 2019, 09:34PM Print
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Id like to replace my old un-rechargable ipod battery, so i got a replacement and have soldered it back together. But i noticed it has 3 wires. is one for a protection circuit ? and how do these work ?
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2Spoons
Wed Nov 20 2019, 09:48PM
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Usually the third wire is for a thermistor embedded in the battery. Its not strictly necessary, but a lot of charge controllers have a thermistor input so charging can be scaled back if the pack gets too hot.
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Patrick
Wed Nov 20 2019, 10:14PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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yes i was thinking that or maybe its more sophisticated like this one :

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2Spoons
Thu Nov 21 2019, 01:30AM
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That one you linked to looks like a protection circuit - the three terminals would not all be exposed outside the pack. One connects to the cells, one connects to the outside world and one is common to both.

The only other time you would see multiple connections on a batt pack is for cell balancing, if its done by the charger and not built in - I see this a lot on packs for power tools.
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Patrick
Thu Nov 21 2019, 07:05AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Ive cut off the tape and there was a tiny circuit board.
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2Spoons
Thu Nov 21 2019, 08:59PM
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Should be easy to trace the third wire then. The circuit board will be the cell protector, typically a chip and two mosfets, for over current, over-charge and over discharge protection.
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Sulaiman
Fri Nov 22 2019, 02:08AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Some cells have a 'fuel gauge' IC,
it measures mA.h in and out to give an indication of the state of charge,
+V, 0V and serial data.
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Patrick
Fri Nov 22 2019, 04:40AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Sulaiman wrote ...

Some cells have a 'fuel gauge' IC,
it measures mA.h in and out to give an indication of the state of charge,
+V, 0V and serial data.
the ipod nanos' are pretty elaborate diagnostic screen
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