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paulj
Wed Oct 02 2019, 05:11AM
paulj Registered Member #59353 Joined: Sun Apr 17 2016, 02:08PM
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thank you for the advice on the photos.

there is a seller who offers film resistors for high voltage of this type, the 910k come in my budget; good or bad idea of the old resistances of the Soviet era?


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Sulaiman
Thu Oct 10 2019, 08:43AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Rather than using resistors you can use inductors for greater efficiency and repetition rate.
Using coupled inductors (e.g. two tall tapped helical coils, each similar to a TC secondary) you can get even greater improvements, at a cost similar to commercial e.h.t. resistors;
e.g. Link2

google: Link2

An example by a 4HV member Link2

This is from my reading, not personally tried.
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MRMILSTAR
Thu Oct 10 2019, 02:40PM
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I have always wondered why some Marx generators use spherical electrodes. It seems that the best type would be pointed electrodes in order to promote the longest spark and most consistent firing. That is what I use on my 20-stage Marx generator.
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Sulaiman
Fri Oct 11 2019, 11:37AM
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'pointy' electrodes wear quickly and do not break down at a constant voltage - even ignoring errosion,
also, from some indirect experience and lots of reading,
it is best if the u.v. emitted by each gap is allowed to 'shine' on the other gaps - to cause all gaps to fire near simultaneously.
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MRMILSTAR
Fri Oct 11 2019, 03:09PM
MRMILSTAR Registered Member #62119 Joined: Sun Feb 04 2018, 04:59AM
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Sulaiman wrote ...

'pointy' electrodes wear quickly and do not break down at a constant voltage - even ignoring errosion,
also, from some indirect experience and lots of reading,
it is best if the u.v. emitted by each gap is allowed to 'shine' on the other gaps - to cause all gaps to fire near simultaneously.

I should have been clearer. I was referring to the single "final-stage" electrode pair where the big discharge occurs, not the individual spark gaps for each stage. It seems to me that pointy electrodes would be best for this final stage in order to give the longest and most consistent discharge. This is what I use on my 20-stage Marx generator.

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Patrick
Sat Oct 12 2019, 02:15AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Sulaiman wrote ...

... it is best if the u.v. emitted by each gap is allowed to 'shine' on the other gaps - to cause all gaps to fire near simultaneously.

can a UV strobe light be used to lower the breakdown threshold uniformly rigt at the best moment ?


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Plasma
Sat Oct 12 2019, 04:05AM
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UV-C range can but it is bad for your eyes, A,B don't have enough energy to ionize.
A lighting supplier will be able to get it.
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paulj
Wed Oct 16 2019, 08:16PM
paulj Registered Member #59353 Joined: Sun Apr 17 2016, 02:08PM
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Hello,

Inductors are a good idea, because I can make them to measure.

But I still ordered the resistances cited in the previous post because I had more time to think, I hope not to destroy them, the power supply provides 20 kv to 15 my max.
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paulj
Sun Dec 01 2019, 01:53PM
paulj Registered Member #59353 Joined: Sun Apr 17 2016, 02:08PM
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Hello, I think I'm going to need help,

I started my generator for the first time and limited the input power to 6kv, but the problem is that after 15s, the resistance connected to the ground becomes so hot that it can not touch it anymore, I extinguish the machine so as not to destroy it, the others remain cold.

There is no short circuit, the capacitors are all OK, and the new resistors.

-Is the power supply is too powerful (a cxdz cx200c) 6-20kv, 0-15ma.

-are the resistances bad?
reistor films
Power: 2Watt
Rated Voltage: 20KV
910 k film resistors
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Patrick
Sun Dec 01 2019, 09:34PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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can you post a schematic ?
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