Welcome
Username or Email:

Password:


Missing Code




[ ]
[ ]
Online
  • Guests: 15
  • Members: 0
  • Newest Member: omjtest
  • Most ever online: 396
    Guests: 396, Members: 0 on 12 Jan : 12:51
Members Birthdays:
All today's birthdays', congrats!
ramses (16)
Arcstarter (31)
Zak (15)


Next birthdays
05/12 Colin 99 (53)
05/14 hvguy (41)
05/14 thehappyelectron (14)
Contact
If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.


Special Thanks To:
  • Aaron Holmes
  • Aaron Wheeler
  • Adam Horden
  • Alan Scrimgeour
  • Andre
  • Andrew Haynes
  • Anonymous000
  • asabase
  • Austin Weil
  • barney
  • Barry
  • Bert Hickman
  • Bill Kukowski
  • Blitzorn
  • Brandon Paradelas
  • Bruce Bowling
  • BubeeMike
  • Byong Park
  • Cesiumsponge
  • Chris F.
  • Chris Hooper
  • Corey Worthington
  • Derek Woodroffe
  • Dalus
  • Dan Strother
  • Daniel Davis
  • Daniel Uhrenholt
  • datasheetarchive
  • Dave Billington
  • Dave Marshall
  • David F.
  • Dennis Rogers
  • drelectrix
  • Dr. John Gudenas
  • Dr. Spark
  • E.TexasTesla
  • eastvoltresearch
  • Eirik Taylor
  • Erik Dyakov
  • Erlend^SE
  • Finn Hammer
  • Firebug24k
  • GalliumMan
  • Gary Peterson
  • George Slade
  • GhostNull
  • Gordon Mcknight
  • Graham Armitage
  • Grant
  • GreySoul
  • Henry H
  • IamSmooth
  • In memory of Leo Powning
  • Jacob Cash
  • James Howells
  • James Pawson
  • Jeff Greenfield
  • Jeff Thomas
  • Jesse Frost
  • Jim Mitchell
  • jlr134
  • Joe Mastroianni
  • John Forcina
  • John Oberg
  • John Willcutt
  • Jon Newcomb
  • klugesmith
  • Leslie Wright
  • Lutz Hoffman
  • Mads Barnkob
  • Martin King
  • Mats Karlsson
  • Matt Gibson
  • Matthew Guidry
  • mbd
  • Michael D'Angelo
  • Mikkel
  • mileswaldron
  • mister_rf
  • Neil Foster
  • Nick de Smith
  • Nick Soroka
  • nicklenorp
  • Nik
  • Norman Stanley
  • Patrick Coleman
  • Paul Brodie
  • Paul Jordan
  • Paul Montgomery
  • Ped
  • Peter Krogen
  • Peter Terren
  • PhilGood
  • Richard Feldman
  • Robert Bush
  • Royce Bailey
  • Scott Fusare
  • Scott Newman
  • smiffy
  • Stella
  • Steven Busic
  • Steve Conner
  • Steve Jones
  • Steve Ward
  • Sulaiman
  • Thomas Coyle
  • Thomas A. Wallace
  • Thomas W
  • Timo
  • Torch
  • Ulf Jonsson
  • vasil
  • Vaxian
  • vladi mazzilli
  • wastehl
  • Weston
  • William Kim
  • William N.
  • William Stehl
  • Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Forums
4hv.org :: Forums :: High Voltage
« Previous topic | Next topic »   

Externally excited Van de Graaffs

Move Thread LAN_403
BoyElectrician
Tue Nov 06 2018, 07:38AM Print
BoyElectrician Registered Member #61847 Joined: Sat Oct 21 2017, 07:51AM
Location: Riana, TAS Australia
Posts: 2
Hi all
Noob to this forum, so 1st post is a question to the VdeG aficionados out there:
I cannot, ever,ever, get an externally excited machine to work. I have built maybe a dozen self excited machines with various belt & pulley combinations, with varying degrees of success, but I have never been able to produce a functional external one. I have tried with grounded lower pulley, grounded bar with charged comb, grounded comb with charged bar, silicone belts, polythene belts, latex belts, charging units have included flybacks, NSTs, OBITs, even ignition coils with oscillators and a rectifier stick - nothing! I have experimented with upper comb positioning, to no avail.
My question is, what is the secret?? any advice?
Waiting hopefully for some insight.
(I'm not too bad with Tesla coils & CW multipliers, btw)
Back to top
johnf
Tue Nov 06 2018, 06:15PM
johnf Registered Member #230 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 08:01PM
Location: Gracefield lower Hutt
Posts: 284
so our VDG @ work 3MeV has a two foot wide belt and the belt goes round @40mph
charging supply is 20kV at 0.5mA metal combs top and bottom to put charge on belt and to take it off. Belt width gives current and belt must move fast enough to take the charge to the terminal before it leaks away
Back to top
BoyElectrician
Tue Nov 06 2018, 11:31PM
BoyElectrician Registered Member #61847 Joined: Sat Oct 21 2017, 07:51AM
Location: Riana, TAS Australia
Posts: 2
johnf wrote ...

so our VDG @ work 3MeV has a two foot wide belt and the belt goes round @40mph
charging supply is 20kV at 0.5mA metal combs top and bottom to put charge on belt and to take it off. Belt width gives current and belt must move fast enough to take the charge to the terminal before it leaks away
Cool! - thanks for that. That is a big unit. Can you please help with a couple of specifics?
What is the belt material, is the lower pulley grounded, and where is the lower comb positioned, ie level with the centre of the lower pulley or above?
Thanks for any info.
Back to top
johnf
Wed Nov 07 2018, 06:34PM
johnf Registered Member #230 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 08:01PM
Location: Gracefield lower Hutt
Posts: 284
belt material is natural rubber reinforced with canvas in the inner layers.
not sure of comb location will look on machine drawings today
Back to top

Moderator(s): Chris Russell, Noelle, Alex, Tesladownunder, Dave Marshall, Dave Billington, Bjørn, Steve Conner, Wolfram, Kizmo, Mads Barnkob

Go to:

Powered by e107 Forum System
 
Legal Information
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.