Welcome
Username or Email:

Password:


Missing Code




[ ]
[ ]
Online
  • Guests: 17
  • Members: 0
  • Newest Member: omjtest
  • Most ever online: 396
    Guests: 396, Members: 0 on 12 Jan : 12:51
Members Birthdays:
One birthday today, congrats!
Colin 99 (53)


Next birthdays
05/14 hvguy (41)
05/14 thehappyelectron (14)
05/14 Justin (2024)
Contact
If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.


Special Thanks To:
  • Aaron Holmes
  • Aaron Wheeler
  • Adam Horden
  • Alan Scrimgeour
  • Andre
  • Andrew Haynes
  • Anonymous000
  • asabase
  • Austin Weil
  • barney
  • Barry
  • Bert Hickman
  • Bill Kukowski
  • Blitzorn
  • Brandon Paradelas
  • Bruce Bowling
  • BubeeMike
  • Byong Park
  • Cesiumsponge
  • Chris F.
  • Chris Hooper
  • Corey Worthington
  • Derek Woodroffe
  • Dalus
  • Dan Strother
  • Daniel Davis
  • Daniel Uhrenholt
  • datasheetarchive
  • Dave Billington
  • Dave Marshall
  • David F.
  • Dennis Rogers
  • drelectrix
  • Dr. John Gudenas
  • Dr. Spark
  • E.TexasTesla
  • eastvoltresearch
  • Eirik Taylor
  • Erik Dyakov
  • Erlend^SE
  • Finn Hammer
  • Firebug24k
  • GalliumMan
  • Gary Peterson
  • George Slade
  • GhostNull
  • Gordon Mcknight
  • Graham Armitage
  • Grant
  • GreySoul
  • Henry H
  • IamSmooth
  • In memory of Leo Powning
  • Jacob Cash
  • James Howells
  • James Pawson
  • Jeff Greenfield
  • Jeff Thomas
  • Jesse Frost
  • Jim Mitchell
  • jlr134
  • Joe Mastroianni
  • John Forcina
  • John Oberg
  • John Willcutt
  • Jon Newcomb
  • klugesmith
  • Leslie Wright
  • Lutz Hoffman
  • Mads Barnkob
  • Martin King
  • Mats Karlsson
  • Matt Gibson
  • Matthew Guidry
  • mbd
  • Michael D'Angelo
  • Mikkel
  • mileswaldron
  • mister_rf
  • Neil Foster
  • Nick de Smith
  • Nick Soroka
  • nicklenorp
  • Nik
  • Norman Stanley
  • Patrick Coleman
  • Paul Brodie
  • Paul Jordan
  • Paul Montgomery
  • Ped
  • Peter Krogen
  • Peter Terren
  • PhilGood
  • Richard Feldman
  • Robert Bush
  • Royce Bailey
  • Scott Fusare
  • Scott Newman
  • smiffy
  • Stella
  • Steven Busic
  • Steve Conner
  • Steve Jones
  • Steve Ward
  • Sulaiman
  • Thomas Coyle
  • Thomas A. Wallace
  • Thomas W
  • Timo
  • Torch
  • Ulf Jonsson
  • vasil
  • Vaxian
  • vladi mazzilli
  • wastehl
  • Weston
  • William Kim
  • William N.
  • William Stehl
  • Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Forums
4hv.org :: Forums :: High Voltage
« Previous topic | Next topic »   

Marx generator HV power supply protection

Move Thread LAN_403
MRMILSTAR
Thu Oct 25 2018, 03:42AM Print
MRMILSTAR Registered Member #62119 Joined: Sun Feb 04 2018, 04:59AM
Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Posts: 136
I built a 20-stage Marx generator. The power supply is a flyback transformer driven by a ZVS driver. The ZVS driver is powered by two 12-volt batteries in series for a total of 24 volts. The Marx generator works as expected with 6 inch sparks, or greater if I want to push it. The problem I am having is how to protect the HV power supply, in particular the ZVS driver. The ZVS driver is one of those Chinese $10 units which uses a standard circuit. The problem I have had is that some of the HV discharge kicks back into the flyback secondary. This then appears to induce a voltage into the flyback primary (center-tapped coil with dual 4-turn coils). The induced voltage then kicks back into the MOSFETs of the ZVS driver. Sometimes this voltage exceeds the source-to-drain voltage rating (250 volts) of the MOSFETs and blows them out.

One idea that I had was to connect varistors across the ZVS driver output. One varistor across one 4-turn coil of the flyback primary. Another varistor across the other 4-turn coil of the flyback primary. The 3rd varistor would then connect across the outer turns of the two coils. I know that varistors have a limited lifetime but the Marx generator only fires about every 3 seconds so I think the varistors would last a reasonable amount of time. They are inexpensive and easy to change.

If this seems like a viable approach, what peak voltage rating for the varistors should I use? If this is not a viable idea, does anyone have any other method for protecting the HV power supply?
Back to top
Plasma
Thu Oct 25 2018, 04:05AM
Plasma Registered Member #61406 Joined: Thu Jan 05 2017, 11:31PM
Location:
Posts: 268
Would a capacitor resistor snubber network work, the volts is high but the joules might be low a large capacance should absorb the energy, larger less volts across the points
Back to top
johnf
Thu Oct 25 2018, 05:53AM
johnf Registered Member #230 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 08:01PM
Location: Gracefield lower Hutt
Posts: 284
lots of 3C65 ferrite cores over your charging wires to slow the wavefront would be a good start befroe your varistors or what ever you settle on to limit the voltage
Back to top

Moderator(s): Chris Russell, Noelle, Alex, Tesladownunder, Dave Marshall, Dave Billington, Bjørn, Steve Conner, Wolfram, Kizmo, Mads Barnkob

Go to:

Powered by e107 Forum System
 
Legal Information
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.