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New DRSSTC [Oscillation Issues]

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Electronics111
Mon Aug 20 2018, 03:56PM Print
Electronics111 Registered Member #56364 Joined: Mon Aug 10 2015, 10:07PM
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Hi all, just putting together my first DRSSTC based loosely upon Kaizer's DRSSTC1. It's using IXGN200N60A3s with a bus voltage of 315VDC, primary cap of 0.2uF at 4000V with about 6.2 turns on the primary right now and also using the universal driver 2.7. I'm doing low power testing into a dummy load placed in the center of the primary and some odd things start happening at about 45-50VDC on the bus. It rings up the current well and starts to drop back down, but after the input pulse from the fibre has gone dark, the voltage across the bridge keeps switching for an extra couple of cycles and then occasionally starts oscillating wildly!
Drsstc Driver Waveform Oscillating
Yellow is voltage accross one of the IGBTs in the bridge, blue is the drive waveform coming out of the universal driver, and magenta is the voltage accross the burden resistor from the CT coil.

I've checked that the driver is not outputting anything to the GDT at this time, and the drive waveform before this looks fine... Any ideas on what's going on here? I'm guessing the gates are getting capacitively coupled into the collector/emitter junction whilst the GDT is blocking this high frequency allowing it to continue oscillating. There must be a way to stop this easily?
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Electronics111
Mon Aug 20 2018, 04:34PM
Electronics111 Registered Member #56364 Joined: Mon Aug 10 2015, 10:07PM
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So after a bunch of googling, I've tried adding some series resistance directly on the gate (not on the driver side as I thought most people were referring to) and that seems to have reduced/removed the crazy oscillations that were happening. However, the primary still continues to oscillate for a short amount due to small spikes on the gates at zero crossings of the primary current.
Drsstc Driver Waveform Oscillating2
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alan sailer
Mon Aug 20 2018, 07:55PM
alan sailer Registered Member #59110 Joined: Mon Apr 11 2016, 04:35PM
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I'm not an expert on DRSSTC but during the process of building a QCW I had it hooked up as a DRSSTC.
I saw a similar effect ie a few cycles after the bridge had supposedly been turned off by the interrupter.

I was told by an experienced coiler that this was normal and was the result of the energy that remains
sloshing about in the primary tank circuit. A more technical description I cannot give. But I also found
several other waveform pictures on this forum that showed the same thing.

So I assume that it is normal.

I would look into the spikes on the IGBJTs. If they are real (and not due to the measurement system)
they look to be larger than the actual applied voltage.

Have you tuned the driver for best phase match?

Cheers.
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Graham Armitage
Wed Aug 22 2018, 08:06PM
Graham Armitage Registered Member #6038 Joined: Mon Aug 06 2012, 11:31AM
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I would concur - pretty normal looking output envelope. I also agree that the spikes should be reduced if possible. Those can cause problems.
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Blackcurrant
Thu Aug 30 2018, 01:51PM
Blackcurrant Registered Member #2989 Joined: Sun Jul 11 2010, 12:01AM
Location: UK
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What does the gate drive look like? Maybe increase the resistance just before the mosfet gate.
here's some nice info
Link2

edit should have remembered look at
Link2
the phase thing that others have mentioned
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Mads Barnkob
Fri Aug 31 2018, 12:19PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
Location: Denmark, Odense C
Posts: 1968
Your excessive switching spikes is due to "things start happening at about 45-50VDC".

See here why: Link2
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