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Conundrum
Sat Aug 26 2017, 07:41AM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Link2

Interesting effects:

1) Modifying the system in this way actually reduces noise so much that it doubles effective performance with weak signals,
with the LF mod (see earlier post) by adding modified DLLs allows tuning down to 11 MHz.

2) Some blue LEDs are really good broadband RF noise sources.
The worst culprits are ones used on certain appliances, so much so that I replaced all the units on my laptop because they were causing intermittent problems due to HDD activity. It appears that under certain conditions the LEDs draw excess power from the chipset and cause random glitching!

3) Adding copper tape around the dongle makes for a good RF "virtual ground" because the case is slightly conductive.
Not sure why but must be a fluke with this particular DVB-T

4) I made a makeshift RF antenna using old label printer roller, some high value polystyrene capacitors from Stella and many metres of random wire from a defunct reed relay with the turns separated using Sellotape (tm)
This allows me to pick up phone NFC "tweets" from 6+ metres away even before adding ferrite rods or an inner spaced layer made from squares of plastic graphite zrzsg
see 1504067105 96 FT1630 Nfc 5feet

Things to try:

5) I found my MW coil, made using the casing from a very old plasma tube.
Going to try some adjustments such as a resonant tuned antenna set for 60kHz (aka Rugby) with a lambda diode oscillator to bring it into the SDR's passband.
As these use under 250uA if set up properly they are ideal for low power circuits and far better than even a single stage opamp.
The tricky part is biasing, which I intend to overcome using a PNP transistor with output from tuned circuit fed directly into a high efficiency green LED which happens to emit IR well below the normal turn-on threshold.
The effect should be a subtle modulation of the valley point therefore adjustment in frequency by moving the NDR region.

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Hon1nbo
Thu Aug 31 2017, 08:23PM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
Location: North Texas
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RTL-SDR units are pretty great. If you want to play with some software transmitters, the Great Scott Yard Stick One is very economical, and on the bit bigger end is the HackRF.

As for noise, yeah LEDs kinda suck (well, not the LEDs themselves but the drivers). If it's using PWM to drive a higher current (easy to tell by waving a camera with a longer shutter at the LED, or your head fast enough if you don't get woozy).

We use SDRs are my work pretty often for reverse engineering. I actually just got a new faraday cage for the office at DEF CON.

Cheers,
~H
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Conundrum
Fri Sept 01 2017, 01:47PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Heh, you can buy Faraday cages?!

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Hon1nbo
Mon Sept 04 2017, 09:13PM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
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yeah. In this case it's more about meeting certain requirements. The price I paid was just really the cost of the 70 pounds of copper :P
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Carbon_Rod
Sun Sept 10 2017, 03:34AM
Carbon_Rod Registered Member #65 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:43AM
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Both these kits are also nice if you are interested in UHF.
$90 (limited software)
Link2

$289 (soapy driver layer is compatible with most apps like gqrx etc.)
Link2
Can also do a VNA tracking source trick from 100k to 2.6GHz:
Link2
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Conundrum
Fri Sept 15 2017, 05:11AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
Location: CI, Earth
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Thanks, worth looking into for my power transmission research.
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