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Physikfan
Thu Jul 07 2016, 10:37AM
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Hi Patrick

Here are pictures of the lost tip of the broken Fluke high voltage probe 80k-40.

Fluke80k40Spitze1400x205

Fluke80k40Spitze2400x168

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Physikfan
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Patrick
Thu Jul 07 2016, 06:51PM
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well if its just the tip, then thats no big deal a screw or something will work.
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Physikfan
Thu Jul 07 2016, 08:17PM
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Hi Patrick

Here are more pictures of the old version:

Fluke80k40alt2

Fluke80k40alt3

"that brown cylinder looks like a common HV caddock resistor" you were completely right, Patrick.

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Physikfan
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Physikfan
Thu Jul 07 2016, 08:20PM
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Hi Patrick

Here are more pictures of the new version:

Fluke80k40neu2

Fluke80k40neu3

Regards

Physikfan
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Patrick
Sat Jul 09 2016, 03:58AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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1468036684 2431 FT177213 Physiks


Here is what the P6013 looks like on the inside. its only 12kV only.

those copper piecies can be pushed closer or further from the 100M ohm resistor. that and a compensation box control frequency response.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Sat Jul 09 2016, 04:12PM
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It's just a Caddock resistor, HAHAHAHAHHA!

I have some of them, probably not that value, but they are precision resistors.

Your frequency response is dependent of your meter as well. Remember there is a precision rectifier circuit in the meter to convert to RMS DC and it is bandwidth limited. You should be able to check it with a simple sine source and see the limitations of the meter, and a good meter should have that in it's spec. sheet.
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Patrick
Sun Jul 10 2016, 07:36PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog) wrote ...

It's just a Caddock resistor, HAHAHAHAHHA!

Ive got more HV resistors than i can count. All different pecision, values, american, soviet makers and so on.



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1468179404 2431 FT177213 Resistor Pipe

1468179404 2431 FT177213 Resistor Centered

1468179404 2431 FT177213 2 Resistors


I have found it better to have an arsenal of HV resistors then to try and buy them as you need them. So much changes that you can get stuck with high cost or design changes that are alot of work.


1297141614 2431 FT102386 Sam 0346croppedtext

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A 225kV, 3Gohm resistor string, from Del HV, (now Spelllman) C7817 unit.


1297141614 2431 FT102386 Sam 0378croppedbins
Storage !
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Physikfan
Wed Jul 13 2016, 06:46PM
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Hi Patrick

Here are the results of preliminary measurements of the frequency dependence of the old high voltage probe FLUKE 80K-40 with the Caddock resistance at 10 Hz, 100 Hz and 1000 Hz.
My equipment consists of a HP function generator, a Tek 7854 with the y-plugins 7A22 and 7A26.
The input voltages (5V/div) for the high voltage probe for these three frequencies are shown in the next pictures:

Flukealt10Hz22Vss400x385
Flukealt100Hz22Vss400x389
Flukealt1kHz22Vss400x404

The output signals of the high voltage probe are shown in the next three pictures (7A22, 5mV/div).
To eliminiate all kinds of electrical noise as far as possible the external trigger of the oscilloscope was used to add up
the small signals one hundered times with the right phase:

Flukealt10HzAVG100400x375
Flukealt100HzAVG100400x389
Flukealt1kHzAVG100400x380

From this dataset the frequency dependence can be determined.

Regards

Physikfan
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Patrick
Wed Jul 13 2016, 07:14PM
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I would not have thought it to be so good at 1kHz.
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Physikfan
Thu Jul 14 2016, 10:14AM
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Hi Patrick

Also in my opinion the value of the high voltage probe signal for 1 kHz seems to be a little bit to high.
I think the signal is measured correctly but the question is:
Is this signal (around 5 mVpp) only the result of the voltage divider of the high voltage probe?
The connection between the probe and the oscilloscope is not a coax cable with BNC, at the end are banana plugs!

I will proceed these measurements with more frequency data points to get a more reliable frequeny dependence of the output signal
of this high voltage probe.

Regards

physikfan
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