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Light speed measurement by pulsed red laser diodes

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Physikfan
Tue Jun 14 2016, 09:05AM Print
Physikfan Registered Member #60240 Joined: Mon May 16 2016, 07:01PM
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Hi

I have measured the speed of light using a HP8082A as a pulse source, a red laser diode as a light source,
a thin normal glass plate as a beam splitter and a corner cube as a reflector.
A 6ns broad electric pulse created a 1ns laser pulse.
The detector was a 2GHz silicon photo diode with about 150 ps rise and fall times.

In the figure the first pulse is the electric pulse for the laser diode, the small little pulse is the reflected lightpulse by the beam splitter.
The last big needle is the laser light pulse coming back from the corner cube.
The distance between the beam splitter and the corner cube was about 1m, therfore the total path for the light pulses was about 2m corresponding to running time of about 6.6 ns.

Lichtgeschwindigkeit SHPX001

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Physikfan
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Mads Barnkob
Tue Jun 14 2016, 01:53PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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Welcome to the forum and great experiment :)

It is not easy to see, but it seems that the scope is set to 5 ns/div and to me it looks more like 15ns from rising edge of laser diode and rising edge of detector, even from falling edge of laser diode it is still 10ns. So how did you get 6.6ns for the total distance?
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Physikfan
Tue Jun 14 2016, 03:26PM
Physikfan Registered Member #60240 Joined: Mon May 16 2016, 07:01PM
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Hi Mads Barnkob

In the figure of my first posting the first pulse of the trace with almost no noise corresponds to the electrical signal applied to the laser diode.

The second trace with 1mV/division (much noise) is the signal of the silicon photo diode.
The very small little peak is the laser pulse directly reflected by the beam splitter.
The rather big needle is the is the laser pulse going the long way from the beam splitter to the corner cube and back.

Here is a screen shot from a different experiment with a 10ns pulse generator with more power (not HP) and a longer light path where you can see the two detector peaks more clearly:

Oszi1400x353


Here is the figure of the experimental setup:

Speedoflight14062016400x317

Regards

Physikfan

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Proud Mary
Tue Jun 14 2016, 08:08PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Great experiment! :)
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Mads Barnkob
Tue Jun 14 2016, 08:54PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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Thank you, that cleared it up, I had it understood as the 1 meter was between laser and corner, now it makes more sense why you mentioned the small bump as reflection in the splitter :)
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Physikfan
Wed Jun 15 2016, 10:54PM
Physikfan Registered Member #60240 Joined: Mon May 16 2016, 07:01PM
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Hi Mads Barnkob and Proud Mary

This is the real experimental setup:

Foto2400x125

In this experiment the distance between beam splitter and corner cube is around 60 cm.

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Physikfan
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Physikfan
Thu Jun 16 2016, 08:48AM
Physikfan Registered Member #60240 Joined: Mon May 16 2016, 07:01PM
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Hi Mads Barnkob and Proud Mary

More experimental details:
You can see from the left to the right
1. pulsed red laser diode
2. Silicon photo diode, 2GHz band width, rise- and fall time around 150 ps
3. Beam splitter (5% reflectivity, 95% transmission)

Foto4400x394

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Physikfan
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Dr. Slack
Thu Jun 16 2016, 01:24PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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@Physikfan - while the forum page appreciates you posting a small image, and small is mandatory in the avatar area, you can add large images to a post. When you upload a photo to the forum, it automatically creates and displays a thumbnail, while providing a link to the full size version. I for one would love to see a bit more of the detail in your setup.

Unfortunately editing/replacing images in an existing post is slightly more tedious than when first creating the post. You post the new image to the attachments forum, edit *that* post to copy the link, then finally edit your target post to replace the link. Tedious, but straightforward. You can link to remote images, but then you need to keep the size reasonable yourself.
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Physikfan
Thu Jun 16 2016, 03:26PM
Physikfan Registered Member #60240 Joined: Mon May 16 2016, 07:01PM
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Hi Dr. Slack

Thank you for your advice uploading pictures in higher resolution.
"I for one would love to see a bit more of the detail in your setup."
In which details are you interested?
I could upload the corresponding pictures in high resolution in my next post.

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Physikfan
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Physikfan
Thu Jun 16 2016, 03:29PM
Physikfan Registered Member #60240 Joined: Mon May 16 2016, 07:01PM
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Hi

Another experimental detail:
The corner cube

Foto3400x277

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Physikfan
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