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johnf
Thu Jun 16 2016, 07:28PM
johnf Registered Member #230 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 08:01PM
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RG213 coax is good to 70kV DC and around 50kV AC. Leave the shield on as this fixes a known voltage gradient through the polyethylene insulator. At each end you cut back the shield to provide a safe margin but make sure you earth the braid
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alan sailer
Fri Jun 17 2016, 08:01PM
alan sailer Registered Member #59110 Joined: Mon Apr 11 2016, 04:35PM
Location: Camarillo, California
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johnf,

Thanks for the tip. i had not even considered coax cable. I'll read up on it.

Cheers.
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Patrick
Fri Jun 17 2016, 10:34PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Im thinking for my purposes of looking into Kapton tape. Making flat ribbon wire, 0.5 inches wide (12mm) and then 3000 Vdc per mil in thickness up to the voltage needed. Kapton is available all over ebay in different widths and thicknesses. I bought a 100ft x 6" roll for my 3D printer.

It survives high neutron and gamma radiation if that matters for your purposes.
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Sulaiman
Fri Jun 17 2016, 10:54PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Just a couple of additional trivia;

I like the eBay Mylar tape, I've not tried kapton but it looks good.

7 x 3kV does not equal 21 kV ... not in my experience anyway.

I have not pushed RG213 to it's limits but two things come to mind,
pF/m ... may be significant (dc electrostatic charge in meters of co-ax can make me jump)
and for high voltage and frequency, 100's pF can be a lot.
The ends of the cable need preparation;
the co-ax needs to be flared out over a few inches into a cone where cone radius >> flashover voltage in air
this is to prevent air-arcs and sharp field gradients in the co-ax dielectric.
from old memories ... sorry, no links.
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alan sailer
Mon Jun 20 2016, 04:13PM
alan sailer Registered Member #59110 Joined: Mon Apr 11 2016, 04:35PM
Location: Camarillo, California
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Sulaiman,

I'd agree that the capacitance might be a show stopper.

And yes I had thought about the transition from coax to single wire. Just cutting it flush would mean an instant surface arc. With DC HV I have had some success using silicone insulating putty for transitions. it might be useful here too.

Cheers.

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