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Help needed to blow OFF the flash lamp using electromagnetic radiation

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NIDAL
Sun Jan 10 2016, 02:13PM Print
NIDAL Registered Member #58007 Joined: Thu Nov 19 2015, 04:22PM
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I need a help to make a incandescent flash light to blow OFF with electromagnetic radiation( A torch with incandescent lamp inside ). A compact circuit powered with 3.7 v -12 v dc is required with no noise.

The radial distance between the radiation source and the flash light should be at least ONE feet. (for more information I have attached an image). i want to damage the filament in the flash light with electromagnetic radiation.


Please give me suggestions along with the circuit diagram.

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hen918
Sun Jan 10 2016, 04:28PM
hen918 Registered Member #11591 Joined: Wed Mar 20 2013, 08:20PM
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Not going to happen. Even if you used the most powerful non-nuclear EMP device (probably an Explosively Pumped Flux Compression Generator) the energy absorbed by the bulb would be tiny, probably unnoticeable.
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Sigurthr
Sun Jan 10 2016, 04:31PM
Sigurthr Registered Member #4463 Joined: Wed Apr 18 2012, 08:08AM
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This *cannot be done. Purely resistive battery operated incandescent lights even survive megawatt EMPs.

Fry a switchmode modern flashlight that isn't faraday shielded? Yes, can be done, but it's incredibly difficult and creates a ton of EM noise because that's how it's done, you impose noise on the driver circuit.

*A highly focused multi-kilowatt microwave beam might be able to vaporize a bulb filament, same as a focused CO2 laser could break the glass envelope allowing the filament to burn in air. These aren't solutions any more than walking over to it and turning the switch off is.

Even though the topic could be purely educational in scope it is most likely purposed for nefarious deeds. I advise you simply find something else worth your time to pursue.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Sun Jan 10 2016, 06:12PM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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a light bulb will survive in a 2000W microwave oven, I'm sure you've seen the demonstration on youtube.

I personally would not want to be holding such a source! You would get fried from the back-lobes alone (search for antenna back-lobes).
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Sulaiman
Sun Jan 10 2016, 07:52PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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I beg to differ,

the lamp is designed with a reflector that focuses the light from the filament at infinity,
use a light sensor to trigger when the target is aligned,
now the hard part ... a really powerful e.m. wave (visible, i.r. ... to melt the glass and/or filament of the lamp
ok not easy but possible.
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NIDAL
Mon Jan 11 2016, 04:52AM
NIDAL Registered Member #58007 Joined: Thu Nov 19 2015, 04:22PM
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What if if the flash light is ON during the pulse? any possibility?
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Sigurthr
Mon Jan 11 2016, 11:57AM
Sigurthr Registered Member #4463 Joined: Wed Apr 18 2012, 08:08AM
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It makes no difference if the flashlight is on or off.
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Signification
Mon Jan 11 2016, 12:46PM
Signification Registered Member #54278 Joined: Sat Jan 17 2015, 04:42AM
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What is the flashlight is "almost burned out" and is hit by the (focused) pulse during it's (the lamp's) filament just as the filament-current passes through the most 'destructive' or 'vulnerable' dT/di ? Where: T= current-induced filament temperature and i = filament current?
...just pickin' for an answer here, sad case A-1.
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NIDAL
Mon Jan 11 2016, 01:08PM
NIDAL Registered Member #58007 Joined: Thu Nov 19 2015, 04:22PM
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Many thanks for all your support and answers.
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Conundrum
Sun Jan 17 2016, 05:50AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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I suppose if you could target the filament with a high enough powered focused laser it might be possible to spot heat the tungsten beyond the evaporation point.
eventually...
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