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Sulaiman
Sat Oct 21 2006, 06:05PM Print
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
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I am building a small SGTC powered by an ignition coil invertor
I have a white teflon/ptfe tube (3 inches od x 12 inches high) for the secondary
on which I will wind about 1200 turns of 0.2mm copper wire (0.233mm incl. enamel)

Normally I'd use polyurethane varnish to secure the windings
but this time I'd like a truly clear/transparent varnish for cosmetic reasons.

Can anyone reccommend a truly clear varnish/laquer?
Low dielectric loss would be good too.
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Marko
Sat Oct 21 2006, 07:12PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
Location: Zadar, Croatia
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Polyurethane spray I have here is colorless..

Color must be some additive they stuffed in.
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Sat Oct 21 2006, 07:26PM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
Location: Southern Califorina, USA
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The stuff I have comes either in brush on/spray on, and has a very slight brown tint to it (but for the most parts is clear)... I am just guessing that you have some type of stain/varnish mix.

Short of that, you can always use epoxy...
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teravolt
Sat Oct 21 2006, 11:16PM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
Location: Berkeley, ca.
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won't the windings unravel with out spray especialy on teflon
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ReddyK
Sun Oct 22 2006, 12:28AM
ReddyK Registered Member #92 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 03:11PM
Location: Indian Trail, NC
Posts: 39
Sherwin Williams has an industrial line of products and one is a spray can of clear insulating enamel for motor windings. I borrowed a can from my local motor winding shop and it worked great.
Steve
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ragnar
Sun Oct 22 2006, 01:28AM
ragnar Registered Member #63 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:18AM
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Any cheap polyurethane clear spray lacquer should do fine. Spray application is also far more rewarding the brush-and-rotating-jig slavery.

the lacquer isn't going to stick to the teflon though -- but it'll hold the wire together onto the former just fine. Just watch that with impact the winding doesn't start slipping off the secondary! (that was the obvious secret behind my 'formerless coil' :P hehehe)
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Avalanche
Sun Oct 22 2006, 08:23AM
Avalanche Registered Member #103 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:16PM
Location: Derby, UK
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I used to use ordinary clear lacquer, from the car parts shop. The only thing is you need to use a LOT of coats, because it is so thin. The early coils I made, I gave them 3 coats, but the windings still separated and fell off a few months later. Therefore I would recommend at least 8 coats.

I've now started using stain/varnish for my coils now, because it gives the coil a nice deep copper-like finish.
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Simon Barsinister
Sun Oct 22 2006, 08:27PM
Simon Barsinister Registered Member #116 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 03:19AM
Location: Erie Pa, USA
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This is the stuff I use:

p.s sorry for the image quality, I used my son's cheepo cam.
Rich
1161548871 116 FT17255 Laquer
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Sulaiman
Mon Oct 23 2006, 01:05AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3140
I've been looking at RS components varnishes/coatings
and it looks like I'll use either Acrylic or Silicone resin
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