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Tesladownunder
Sun Oct 15 2006, 05:36PM Print
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
Location: Bunbury, Australia
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Here is a project for beginners for fast sparks with a minimum component count.

It uses a relay as a vibrator to turn current on and off rapidly to an ignition coil.

Parts
1 12V SPST relay (single pole single throw) Can also use DPST (double pole double throw).
2 1 microFarad capacitor (polyester - greencap) over 200V rating
3 Ignition coil (from wreckers)
4 Wood, nails and solder
5 Power supply. Need 12 volt at 4A. Or car battery (take out of car first)

Advantages
Simple
Non lethal but must take care with high voltage.
Parts fairly easily obtainable from different places (Electronics store, Wreckers)

Disadvantages
Draws a lot of power
Not efficient
Will over-heat the coil in long runs
Causes interference to some power supplies.
Relay lifetime will be limited.

Peter

1160933761 10 FT0 Hvicbeginnersschematic

1160933761 10 FT0 Hvicbeginnersrelay

1160933761 10 FT0 Hvicbeginnersignitioncoil

1160933761 10 FT0 Hvicbeginnersclose

1160933761 10 FT0 Hvicbeginnersrunning
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Dr. Dark Current
Sun Oct 15 2006, 06:13PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
Location: Czech Rep.
Posts: 3384
Can I see well that the relay coil will see >100V primary pulses?? cry Could not it break down?
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Marko
Sun Oct 15 2006, 06:22PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
Location: Zadar, Croatia
Posts: 3145
I made such a thing very long ago. Exactly as same 2cm sparks (biggest problem is actually insulating the terminal of the iggie itself).

I'l post pics if I find it somewhere.
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uzzors2k
Sun Oct 15 2006, 06:49PM
uzzors2k Registered Member #95 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:57PM
Location: Norway
Posts: 1308
Thats pretty good. I tried a 555 timer powered driver @ 12volts and I got pretty cheap sparks. If I find a good relay I'll try this.
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Tesladownunder
Mon Oct 16 2006, 12:43PM
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
Location: Bunbury, Australia
Posts: 1424
I often get people with little experience wanting to make a Tesla coil as a first HV project. Often schoolkids looking to do a science fair project.

I have been very reluctant to encourage Tesla coil building in that age group. I've often had to point them off to other sites for simple HV projects.

This has been the motivation behind this little project. In fact it was the way I got into HV when I was 14 and I used a multivibrator out of a valve radio set to run two IC's. It is pretty safe and lots to learn and do with nothing really critical.

Photo shows the identical circuit running 2 coils in 1972.

Peter

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Marko
Mon Oct 16 2006, 01:48PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
Location: Zadar, Croatia
Posts: 3145
Is that you on the pic tdu? smile
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Tesladownunder
Fri Oct 20 2006, 03:34PM
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
Location: Bunbury, Australia
Posts: 1424
Yep, thats me. I haven't changed a bit in the 34 years shades

The webpage bookmark is here for the details.


Peter
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