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Conundrum
Fri Mar 06 2015, 04:43AM Print
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Link2

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dexter
Fri Mar 06 2015, 05:33AM
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the article has way to many it might, it could, should and unclear
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Conundrum
Fri Mar 06 2015, 06:27AM
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Still, its intriguing to see Higgs like phenomena in superconductors.
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dexter
Fri Mar 06 2015, 08:37AM
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Conundrum wrote ...

Still, its intriguing to see Higgs like phenomena in superconductors.

Higgs???? where in the article did they said that????

read this Link2
it doesn't talk about quantum gravity but is a good article showing the lack of relationship between gravity and higgs
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Ash Small
Fri Mar 06 2015, 11:36AM
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As I understand it, interaction with the Higgs makes 'stuff' appear to have 'mass'.

Gravity is the attractive force between these 'masses'.
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dexter
Fri Mar 06 2015, 12:08PM
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Ash Small wrote ...

As I understand it, interaction with the Higgs makes 'stuff' appear to have 'mass'.

Gravity is the attractive force between these 'masses'.

well it appears gravity and higgs are unrelated... read my previous link...
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Ash Small
Fri Mar 06 2015, 12:19PM
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dexter wrote ...

Ash Small wrote ...

As I understand it, interaction with the Higgs makes 'stuff' appear to have 'mass'.

Gravity is the attractive force between these 'masses'.

well it appears gravity and higgs are unrelated... read my previous link...


I agree, Dexter...re-read my previous post wink
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dexter
Sun Mar 08 2015, 03:47PM
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in the mass of the proton only 1% comes from higgs Link2 rest is just energy
the higgs mechanism was needed to explain the W and Z bosons and there is where is most prominent

given the fact that most of the matter in the universe is protons, neutrons and electrons and how little those particles interact with the higgs field is foolish to say gravity and higgs are in direct correlation....
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Conundrum
Sun Mar 08 2015, 06:44PM
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What are the odds of a "Super-Higgs" that provides the other 99% of mass?
I reckon it will be about 229 GeV, and be found mid August once all the new data is analyzed.
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dexter
Sun Mar 08 2015, 07:29PM
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Conundrum wrote ...

What are the odds of a "Super-Higgs" that provides the other 99% of mass?
I reckon it will be about 229 GeV, and be found mid August once all the new data is analyzed.

come on watch the video i linked... it explains what i was saying, after you do that i'll appreciate any criticism/discussion

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