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furnace
Fri Jan 30 2015, 04:16AM Print
furnace Registered Member #4992 Joined: Wed May 23 2012, 03:57PM
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Hi everyone!
Can someone please try and explain why I get a voltage rise on my gate, this only happens to the first mosfet that is switched on, on a normal half bridge circuit with 2 dc blocking caps for induction heating.
The circuit runs very smooth at 200volts ac through a variac which is rectified. Its only that the high side gets slightly warmer than the low side.

This is the signal on both mosfet with te variac on. If the variac is switched off than both signals rise and fall times are even, from the gdt of my pll driver.

this signal
1422592635 4992 FT168697 1386097193607
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johnf
Fri Jan 30 2015, 06:57AM
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Furnace
Your high side drive is too low---- could be caused by the bootstrap cap not being enough or insufficient drive through your GDT
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Wolfram
Sat Jan 31 2015, 01:29AM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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How do you measure the voltage on the upper gate with power on the half bridge?

What sort of driver are you using? It's very difficult to help without even knowing what circuit you're using.
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furnace
Sat Jan 31 2015, 05:35AM
furnace Registered Member #4992 Joined: Wed May 23 2012, 03:57PM
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This is my circuit. I tried increasing power on my driver but it does not make a difference.
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Antonio
Sat Jan 31 2015, 04:29PM
Antonio Registered Member #834 Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
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Where are you connecting the oscilloscope probes? With a grounded oscilloscope you can directly measure the gate voltage of the lower transistor. To measure the gate-source voltage of the upper transistor you have to subtract the signals at the gate and at the source. (I don't recomment lifting the oscilloscope from the ground and measuring the gate-source voltage directly.)
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furnace
Sun Feb 01 2015, 04:21AM
furnace Registered Member #4992 Joined: Wed May 23 2012, 03:57PM
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The scope is grounded through a cap and the probes are directly on the gate of the mosfets.
But anyway this is not to be considered as this is not the source of my problem. The problem is that the voltage of my high side mosfet is rising on the gate or it seems to build up a charge.
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mister_rf
Sun Feb 01 2015, 04:47PM
mister_rf Registered Member #4465 Joined: Wed Apr 18 2012, 08:37AM
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Question: are the 5V1 zener diodes connected as in the schematics? (D5/D6) Maybe one of the diode was reverse direction mounted. shades

In my opinion I’ll use an extra 10k resistor connected between the gate and the source of each MOSFET.
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furnace
Mon Feb 02 2015, 09:55AM
furnace Registered Member #4992 Joined: Wed May 23 2012, 03:57PM
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The zener was connected wrong, yes! I corrected it but now the mosfets does not want to turn on?
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furnace
Sat Feb 07 2015, 05:11AM
furnace Registered Member #4992 Joined: Wed May 23 2012, 03:57PM
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Can someone please assist me with this?
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Sigurthr
Sat Feb 07 2015, 06:39AM
Sigurthr Registered Member #4463 Joined: Wed Apr 18 2012, 08:08AM
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The gate could have been blown open circuit, in which case the fet will never turn on. It's rare, as they usually fail closed circuit, but not impossible.
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