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Characterization of Magnetic Core Materials

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The Lightning Stalker
Tue Jun 04 2013, 01:59PM Print
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What are the method(s) of characterizing a given sample of unknown magnetic material? I have the idea of applying a fast rising pulse and measuring the resulting current. Also some AC sweeps.

Is there a good list of core materials and their suitability for a particular use?

Thanks
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HV Enthusiast
Tue Jun 04 2013, 03:21PM
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Given that ferrite cores are very inexpensive and readily available, it would much more cost effective to purchase a ferrite of known type than to spend the time required to properly characterize an unkonwn ferrite and even then, you'd still be partially guessing.

Unless, you have some very unique ferrite core, say something very large etc... than i would simply just purchase or sample a known ferrite for your application.


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Proud Mary
Tue Jun 04 2013, 03:21PM
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Consider the properties that are characteristic of the material and are not affected by its microstructure. Such properties include Curie temperature, saturation magnetisation, and magnetocrystalline anisotropy.
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Steve Conner
Tue Jun 04 2013, 08:31PM
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Klugesmith posted a thread a while back showing how to draw the B-H loop.

The Micrometals and Fair-Rite catalogs are good lists of core materials and have plenty of hints on how to apply them.
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HV Enthusiast
Wed Jun 05 2013, 01:44PM
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Steve Conner wrote ...

Klugesmith posted a thread a while back showing how to draw the B-H loop.

The Micrometals and Fair-Rite catalogs are good lists of core materials and have plenty of hints on how to apply them.

Type 77 and Type 78 from Fair-Rite are very good for gate transformers in the 50-300kHz range.

Type J material from Magnetics Inc. is another commonly used material, especially for the large cores used in CM300 and CM600 based coils.
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Steve Conner
Wed Jun 05 2013, 09:57PM
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Yes, I've mostly used Fair-Rite type 78 myself.
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The Lightning Stalker
Thu Jun 06 2013, 03:49AM
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Thank you all again. This is just the info I was looking for. I will continue to post updates if/when I get around to doing this.
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Dr. Dark Current
Thu Jun 06 2013, 03:25PM
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Ferrite vs. iron powder - easy to distinguish by measurin the Al value and core permeability.
Maximum flux density - for most ferrite materials use 0.3T, for iron powder 1T
The frequency limitation of a ferrite material is a bit more complex thing. You can guess it by the permeability (a "low frequency" power ferrite has a relative permeability of several thousand, the HF ferrites have a few hundred). Also you can try measuring the W/kg figure, simply by connecting it to a low impedance source (such as a small H-bridge) and measuring the supply current.
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