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optical speed trap / chronograph sensor question

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Madgyver
Tue Aug 22 2006, 10:52AM Print
Madgyver Registered Member #177 Joined: Wed Feb 15 2006, 02:16PM
Location: Munich, Germany
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I have general question about chronograph:

Pictures of chronographs
Link2

I know the sensor is optical, but how does ist actually work? Whats that funny antenna like construction on top? How does that function as a sensor?
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Bjørn
Tue Aug 22 2006, 11:05AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
Location: Hyperborea
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The construction makes me think it is an optical sensor in the base that detects the darkening that the bullet causes when it passes between the detector and the white diffuser at the top.

I have never seen one up close but I am pretty sure it works like that.
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Sulaiman
Tue Aug 22 2006, 11:34AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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The link you put leads to pages that describe the 'sails' as "sky screen'
I guess to screen the sky from the optical pickup.

Since (in general) photo-diodes have a much faster rise time (dark-to-light response)
than they do fall time (light-to-dark) I ASSUME theres a light source pointing up
and the bullet reflects a small portion back to the photo sensor.
The optical signal is quite small so 'shielding' the sensor from the sky light is a good idea.

This is all guesswork on my part, others here probably know better!
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Bjørn
Tue Aug 22 2006, 11:54AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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With some searching I found some information.

As a bullet is darker than the sky above, the skyscreen sensors detect a
slight light drop as the bullet passes over them thus allowing the chronograph to record
the velocity. When there is not enough light on the diffuser or the bullet is too bright,
there is the potential for problems. Additionally, when there is snow or water on the
ground, the reflection which is cast back up on the bottom side of the bullet can prevent
the sensors from seeing the bullet causing erratic performance.

My guess is that it was done like that since WWII and it has been done like that ever since without anyone questioning the design.
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