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Switching Device for Coilgun

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Freelancer1331
Sun Dec 09 2012, 06:07AM Print
Freelancer1331 Registered Member #7829 Joined: Sat Nov 03 2012, 08:16PM
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I found these transistors online and I think they're classified as darlingtons but I'm not totally sure. Can someone verify this? The data sheet supplied by the seller is the first link and I dug around to find the second one.

Seller Datasheet:
Link2

Other Datasheet:
Link2

If these are darlington transistors, are they a viable option for switching a coilgun? The datasheet quotes the on-time as 2 us and the fall time as 3 us. Some of the IGBTs I've been looking at have on and fall times of around 30 ns and 260 ns respectively. I considered an example of a projectile of length 2 inches moving at 100 m/s. Multiplying 100 m/s by 3 us yields a total displacement of 0.0003 m. With respect to the length of the projectile (and the coil, assuming they are of equal length), this should be an acceptable switching time right?

Thanks!
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Yandersen
Sun Dec 09 2012, 06:18AM
Yandersen Registered Member #6944 Joined: Fri Sept 28 2012, 04:54PM
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Taking into account that you will never achieve 100m/s playing around with 100A, this half-pound brick is fast enough for you for sure.
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Freelancer1331
Sun Dec 09 2012, 07:29AM
Freelancer1331 Registered Member #7829 Joined: Sat Nov 03 2012, 08:16PM
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Fair enough!

Another quick question, the first datasheet lists a "diode surge current" value. Can someone elaborate on this measurement please.

Thanks
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Yandersen
Sun Dec 09 2012, 10:57AM
Yandersen Registered Member #6944 Joined: Fri Sept 28 2012, 04:54PM
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Diode can sustain 1000A in a single non-repetitive pulse.
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Ash Small
Sun Dec 09 2012, 11:48AM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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Yandersen wrote ...

Diode can sustain 100A in a single non-repetitive pulse.

What does the 'diode surge current = 1000A' mean?

(two lines below the '100A' rating in the first datasheet)
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Yandersen
Sun Dec 09 2012, 11:56AM
Yandersen Registered Member #6944 Joined: Fri Sept 28 2012, 04:54PM
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Sorry, typo. Fixed.
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Ash Small
Sun Dec 09 2012, 12:22PM
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And it looks like they are Darlington BJT's, and not IGBT's.
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Steve Conner
Sun Dec 09 2012, 12:37PM
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IGBTs can usually stand something like twice the datasheet current rating for 1ms. I don't know if this is also true for Darlingtons, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Darlingtons and old IGBTs may also require snubber capacitors to turn off a high current in an inductive load, such as a coilgun coil, without blowing up. Newer IGBTs have a "square SOA" and can turn off their full rated current safely with no snubbers.
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Yandersen
Sat Feb 23 2013, 10:41AM
Yandersen Registered Member #6944 Joined: Fri Sept 28 2012, 04:54PM
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Hey, alternative switching device for a coilgun can be made out of scratch and it can handle high currents well! I call it spark switch - just an air gap triggered by HV, acting as thyristor. I made one and taped it's operation on video here:
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MrFlatox
Sat Feb 23 2013, 11:22AM
MrFlatox Registered Member #9349 Joined: Mon Jan 07 2013, 08:50AM
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But you can't cut the discharge right ?
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