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uzzors2k
Fri Aug 04 2006, 08:45AM
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FaLLoUT wrote ...

I will only try first 2 then 1 feedback windings.

Use three windings, but on only one of the flybacks, instead of both.
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FaLLoUT
Fri Aug 04 2006, 09:59AM
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3 feedback windings, how can that be when there is only 2 flybacks?
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uzzors2k
Fri Aug 04 2006, 11:06AM
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My bad, I meant turns. 1 winding consisting of 3 turns, wrapped around either one or both flyback cores. Hope I didn't confuse you too much.
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Part Scavenger
Sat Aug 19 2006, 04:23PM
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Hey guys, I've had great results just paralleling primaries on the same ZVS driver. I've done up to three in parallel with great success, then depending on what you want, you can series the flyback output for high voltage or parallel for more current. I went up to about 100kV, it was pretty scary. cheesey
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FaLLoUT
Tue Aug 22 2006, 07:24AM
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Part Scavenger wrote ...

Hey guys, I've had great results just paralleling primaries on the same ZVS driver. I've done up to three in parallel with great success, then depending on what you want, you can series the flyback output for high voltage or parallel for more current. I went up to about 100kV, it was pretty scary. cheesey

wow that sounds nice so.. i start gathering a LOT of flybacks and driver parts tongue Do you think its better spark show at series or paralleling the flyback outputs? or maybe i can like go for series and parallel amazed
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Part Scavenger
Tue Aug 22 2006, 11:23AM
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Nope, it's a lot more fun to series them. Just be careful and just use a long chicken stick (no more screwdrivers). I wouldn't worry about parallel unless you're trying to drive a tesla coil or something, the spark is plenty hot enough for a good show. (at least mine was). I was using IRF540 MOSFETs for the ZVS driver. They died after a while when driving three in series, but I was seriously overdriving them.

Oh, yeah, I was using an oversized (like 1uF) cap and 25V input, with a large filter cap across the input if that helps anyone. Sorry, I didn't measure wattage, but the arc would initiate at about 80-100kV and then the arc looked like it was doing some 30mA or so. I know I wasn't pulling 3kW though, so I assume the output voltage dropped considerably as soon as the arc initiated. Anyway, good way to kill an afternoon.
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Wilson
Tue Aug 22 2006, 12:47PM
Wilson Registered Member #78 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:27AM
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Part Scavenger wrote ...

Hey guys, I've had great results just paralleling primaries on the same ZVS driver. I've done up to three in parallel with great success, then depending on what you want, you can series the flyback output for high voltage or parallel for more current. I went up to about 100kV, it was pretty scary. cheesey

Is this with 3 similar ones? Also, these didn't have the internal multipliers did they?
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FaLLoUT
Thu Aug 24 2006, 01:32PM
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Hmm i am definately going to try these flybacks in series. About internal multipliers and stuff.. if you cant use flybacks from new model TVs (that is what was mentioned on the web site that gave me info about flybacks) then what model or what production date TVs should i look for.. Pls help me on this one because all the flybacks i can get hold of are new models and i am searching for a black&white TV now
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uzzors2k
Thu Aug 24 2006, 02:11PM
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Multiplier flybacks work fine, its just that the older AC flybakcs are often prefered. The old AC ones give better spark length and arcs so I've heard. I've had good results from a monitor flyback + ZVS driver + just 12volts, so use what you can find.

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Wilson
Thu Aug 24 2006, 02:36PM
Wilson Registered Member #78 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:27AM
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Old ones always seem to flashover and die first....well, for me at least.
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