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Coronafix
Sat Aug 19 2006, 05:48AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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For your NST, resonant charge cap value is 10.6nf. based on 60Hz supply.
Using LTR of 1.4 or 1.5 gives 14.8nf or 15.9nf respectively.
If you're going to spend a bit of money on MMCs then you want to
overvoltage the rating. This is why I say 24Kv.
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Part Scavenger
Sat Aug 19 2006, 04:12PM
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Link2

It's a great meter for the price and is suprisingly accurate.

As far as capacitors, you might try making some stack ones with something like glass or transparancies. This sould be cheaper than an MMC, but alot of people have trouble with stack caps.
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Terry Fritz
Sat Aug 19 2006, 10:33PM
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Hi,

For a 15/60 NST and a static spark gap, you want 15.9nF or "close". 10 of the CD 0.15 caps would do fine. There is a chart here to determine such things:

Link2

That NST will be a little big for your present coil, so keep the spark gap rather close at first.

Cheers,

Terry
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Michael W.
Sun Aug 20 2006, 03:40AM
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Thanks Terry! Now i just have to bite my tounge and press the purchase button. I think digikey has the best deal with the shiiping and all. Now I have to find some 10 M Ohm Resistors. Digikey dosen't sell any rated for 15,000V+... angry
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EDY19
Mon Aug 21 2006, 03:19PM
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Are the resistors for bleeding the cap bank? If so, put one across each capacitor and it will only see <1500V.
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Terry Fritz
Mon Aug 21 2006, 09:47PM
Terry Fritz Registered Member #393 Joined: Tue Apr 18 2006, 12:30AM
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Hi,

Mouser.com might have a better deal on the caps depending... I have been using two 4.7M 1/2W carbon resistors across each cap these days.

Link2

Also been playing with putting them in a plastic tube "gutter pipe".

Link2

The resistors can easily take the voltage. The trick is to put them across "each" cap:

Link2

Cheers,

Terry



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Michael W.
Thu Aug 24 2006, 04:45PM
Michael W. Registered Member #50 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:07AM
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cheesey Got my caps today. I decided to buy from digikey as they "seemed" to have the best deal and for only $8, recieved overnight shipping from the states. Although in my haste I think I may have inadvertently ordered 1/4 watt insteat of 1/2 watt 4M Ohm resistors. Is this going to pose a serious problem? Thanks for all your help terry.
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Terry Fritz
Thu Aug 24 2006, 05:46PM
Terry Fritz Registered Member #393 Joined: Tue Apr 18 2006, 12:30AM
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inadvertently ordered 1/4 watt insteat of 1/2 watt 4M Ohm resistors. Is this going to pose a serious problem?


I would use four of them per cap. I run 1M 1/4W at 300V all the time. But I have never tested 4M or 10M 1/4W resistors for real high voltage use. The 1/2 watts are super well proven now.

Cheers,

Terry
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Michael W.
Thu Aug 24 2006, 08:39PM
Michael W. Registered Member #50 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:07AM
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Well....I only bought 25 resistors so If they blow out I might just have to order some more.... angry
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Terry Fritz
Thu Aug 24 2006, 09:59PM
Terry Fritz Registered Member #393 Joined: Tue Apr 18 2006, 12:30AM
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I just tested a 1/4W 10M resistor here.

At 4200VDC it arced over on the outside. Seemed fairly happy at 3000V... So at 2000V peak you should be fine. Seemed the heating at around 3000+V was the biggest problem.

Cheers,

Terry
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