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trying to repair FRG-7 receiver

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hsieh
Thu May 10 2012, 04:06AM
hsieh Registered Member #1412 Joined: Thu Mar 27 2008, 04:07PM
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Yes.When I turn preselect slowly from 2.3Mhz~2.6Mhz,the sound from the speaker first become slightly louder than become quiet again.If I remove the wire on SW1,this sound disappear.

What is the propose of this test?Is this signal come from outside of the receiver?
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Proud Mary
Thu May 10 2012, 07:27AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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hsieh wrote ...

Yes.When I turn preselect slowly from 2.3Mhz~2.6Mhz,the sound from the speaker first become slightly louder than become quiet again.If I remove the wire on SW1,this sound disappear.

What is the propose of this test?Is this signal come from outside of the receiver?

It means receiver working!

Correct operation of receiver: Example: Set frequency to 9740 kHz

1. Set BAND to C - 4.0 - 11

2. Set main dial to 740

3. Set MHz to 9 so LOCK light go off.

4. Turn PRESELECT slowly between 9 - 10 until you get loudest signal, or noise.

Every time you change the main tuning dial, you must re-tune PRESELECT for loudest signal. This is very important on the lower frequencies, where a small change in frequency on the main dial will need a larger change in PRESELECT.
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hsieh
Thu May 10 2012, 11:30AM
hsieh Registered Member #1412 Joined: Thu Mar 27 2008, 04:07PM
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Now I know I have to adjust the preselect dial while tuning and I successfully received one or two local AM station.But seems that the sensitivity of my receiver is very low.With a cheap pocket radio I can receive many AM stations.
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Proud Mary
Thu May 10 2012, 12:27PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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hsieh wrote ...

Now I know I have to adjust the preselect dial while tuning and I successfully received one or two local AM station.But seems that the sensitivity of my receiver is very low.With a cheap pocket radio I can receive many AM stations.

Transistor radio has internal ferrite rod antenna!

To listen on HF (BAND B, C, and D on this receiver) Connect SW1 (Short Wave 1)to a long wire antenna - 20 meters is enough - as high off the ground as you can make it.

Connect E to a good Earth.

To listen to AM Broadcast stations 0.5 - 1.6 MHz BAND A connect long wire antenna to BC.

You will hear very much noise on frequencies below about 10 MHz. This is normal today.
Try to learn about HF radio wave propagation - which frequencies work well during day, and which frequencies are best at night. A band on which no stations can be heard during the day may be full of stations at night. A band full of stations by day may be dead at night. It all depends on ionosphere.

Good Luck! smile
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Proud Mary
Thu May 10 2012, 06:31PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Hsieh! This is how I made indoor HF horizontal rectangular loop antenna 3.5 m x 4.5 m. for FRG-7


1336674451 543 FT0 Indoor  Antenna  Upload


Regular hammer drill not work on my wall! Hard concrete! I use SDS drill - everything shake and crack plaster! smile

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hsieh
Mon May 14 2012, 02:16AM
hsieh Registered Member #1412 Joined: Thu Mar 27 2008, 04:07PM
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Today I also replace Q104.I found the one in my receiver is 3SK51 instead of 3SK40 in the manual.I replaced it with 3SK40 because I bought several 3SK40 and someone on another forum says that loss of sensitivity might because 3SK40 is damaged.

But there is no improvement.Probably I need to re-alignment it.If I am going to use signal generator preform alignment procedure in the manual,what output voltage should I set my signal generator to?

And why the schematic says Q104 is 3SK40 but I found 3SK51 in my receiver?Is this because manufacturer changed its design without changing the manual/schematic or because the previous owner repaired or modified it?
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Proud Mary
Mon May 14 2012, 09:22PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Injected RF and AF signal levels from generator must be appropriate for part of circuit under test.

Example: Maximum receiver sensitivity at antenna is 0.7 μV. An RF test voltage of 100 μV injected onto SW1 will be equivalent to a strong signal, but not enough to do damage.

Generally, you must select a signal generator output to be within the normal range of RF/AF voltage for the stage you are testing. You may increase this if you are sure that no damage will be done by a higher voltage applied at that place.

You have changed active parts in the signal path without good reason, and I expect it will be necessary to completely re-align the receiver for it to function correctly.

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hsieh
Tue May 15 2012, 03:39PM
hsieh Registered Member #1412 Joined: Thu Mar 27 2008, 04:07PM
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Today I tried to do the first step of alignment in the manual.I don't have a sweep signal generator.So I tried to inject different frequencies but I found that no matter what signal I inject,the waveform on TP104 didn't change at all.Even if I disconnect the signal generator.So what should I do now?
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Proud Mary
Tue May 15 2012, 06:13PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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OK.

We test operation of First Heterodyne Oscillator Q201.

Connect oscilloscope or frequency counter between TP101 and TP102 (which is Earth/Ground).

What is the frequency on TP101?

What is RF voltage on TP101?
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hsieh
Wed May 16 2012, 12:42AM
hsieh Registered Member #1412 Joined: Thu Mar 27 2008, 04:07PM
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I measured the waveform at TP101.I get a sine wave and the frequency is around 75MHz.(MHZ dial set at 20MHz,as specified in the manual)
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